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A chum in West Seattle reports that his daughter bought a pair of scoodles -- dogs which are the product of crossing a Scottie with a poodle. This seems (a) a terrible thing to do to either breed of dog and (b) a further pollution of the language with silly new words.
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Well, hey, they're just dogs. What worse could happen to them? And you got something against portmanteau words?
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Ack--I can't decide if that's worse that peek-a-poo (sp?) or not.
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Portmanteau words are useful, particularly if the coiner/user is attempting to be tongue-in-cheek funny, but less so in serious discourse. The person who coined the synonym for them -- frankenword -- did a good thing.
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tongue-in-cheek funny
Keep your tongue firmly in your cheek next time there's a smog alert.
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"Smog" is a good example of a Frankenword. Others are "spork" (spoon + fork) meaning a runcible spoon and "skort" (skirt + shorts) meaning a wrap-around skirt with short legs.
The problem with giving in to portmanteau words like "smog" is that it is a short slide down the slippery slope to words like "snizzle" (snow + drizzle) and "clumid" (cloudy + humid).
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Snizzle? OK, Father Snoop Dog.
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There is also someone trying to get recognition for the "new breed" of Labradoodles. Originally bred for the serious purpose of providing a guide dog for a woman with severe dog allergies since poodles are non allergenic. Hard to take seriously with that name though.
Some frankenwords do describe a combination of things that is different than the sum of its parts. Like smog - it is neither smoke nor fog. Brunch too is so much more than a combination of breakfast and lunch. What I object to is the making up of cute combinations for things that don't need a word of there own. A piece of bread and cheese at 3:30 is a snack not a lupper.
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One of the oldest breeds of dogs is the white dog with black spots bred for German stage performances. The Dalmatian of Faust.
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OK, Father Snoop Dog.
That be Dogg with two g's, Home Skillet.
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a short slide down the slippery slope
You're using a logical fallacy to bolster your argument?
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Besides snizzle is already a word. It refers to those annoying sneezes that fizzle out halfway leaving you profoundly unsatisfied and twitching your nose like TV's Genie.
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"Smog" is a good example of a Frankenword.
Run away, run away: the word police is here. Smog, spork, and slithy are all perfectly good words. They've lived amongst us for years. Let's not turn them out because of the parentage.
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The problem with giving in to portmanteau words like "smog" is that it is a short slide down the slippery slope to...
I'm thinkin' it's being dragged up... like the beginning of a roller-coaster ride where *one has to be ratcheted up a chain.
Kind-of-a "what goes up must come down" thang.
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Me and Justice Scalia
Now you're trying to tempt me into another fallacy, some variety of ad hominem by association.
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Goethe one, TEd.
You owe me one keyboard, eta.
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Hard to take seriously with that name though
Ugh, don't get me started on these horrendous "new breed" names. Some of the other offenders I've heard:
Schnoodle = Schnauzer X Poodle Cockapoo = Cocker Spaniel X Poodle Yorkipoo = Yorkshire Terrier X Poodle Goldendoodle = Golden Retriever X Poodle
We used to have a Labrador X Springer Spaniel (probably X a little something else), but we didn't call her a Labraniel, she was just a mutt.
Although I just thought, perhaps a German Shepherd X Springer Spaniel could be called a "Jerry Springer"?
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Flat, are you and TEd in them?
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O.k., so what is this fascination with breeding poodles with other dogs? Do they have special attributes that make them especially attractive to owners.
I very rarely see poodles so I can't imagine they'd be that popular versus other dogs.
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so what is this fascination with breeding poodles with other dogs?
I've heard they were originally bred by the French for hunting. They're supposed to be rather intelligent dogs. I think they just got a bad name from their silly haircuts. OTOH, nobdy ever made fun of the Mohawk to his face.
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And then there's the fact, mentioned above, that they don't readily cause/aggravate allergies, because they have hair, not fur. That's why they have to be trimmed.
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http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/poodle.cfmis the American Kennel Club standards for poodles. More than you want to know about the standards! Poodles have a coat that does not shed which great for people with allergies. Highly intelligent, they can take over if owners are not kind and consistant in training. Good watchdogs, family friendly, - not a dog to leave alone all day as they can become destructive if deprived of human companionship. They are real people-dogs. Good water dogs with gentle mouths, they have proven their worth in the field as water-bird retrievers. CAn be real clowns and love to entertain their owners. Benefit from consistant training as they learn very quickly but tend to forget fast,too which is why they are not used as seeing eye dogs - they learn quickly - for instance - to guide their person around an open manhole but then, one day, they decide it would be fun to just jump over the hole! Oooops! They are often over-bred because of popularity so best to buy from a reputable breeder. Not cheap to buy or to keep. Their coats must be groomed regularly to avoid skin problems and that averages about $30 a month! I have owned poodles - standard and mini - and they are great dogs!
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And then there's the fact, mentioned above, that they don't readily cause/aggravate allergies, because they have hair, not fur. That's why they have to be trimmed.
Looking at a poodle and its haircut, I am confused how leaving half of its hair intact can have any impact on its alleged allergy aggravation, otherwise they'd be hairless like a chihuahua.
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Let me splain you, jheem. The haircuts have nothing to do with the allergy thang; what I meant was poodles have hair, which grows, and needs to be cut, unlike fur, which doesn't. Apparently hair isn't an allergen, while fur is.
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"...twitching your nose like TV's Genie"
That was actually Samantha in Bewitched. Genie nodded her head sharply. But I never watch TV...
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Remember, I did NOT start this whole thing!!
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Remember, I did NOT start this whole thing!!
How, again, does one put the genie back in the bottle?
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Let me splain you, jheem. The haircuts have nothing to do with the allergy thang; what I meant was poodles have hair, which grows, and needs to be cut, unlike fur, which doesn't. Apparently hair isn't an allergen, while fur is.
My head is spinning. I must needs look into this. Sounds fishy to me.
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Remember, I did NOT start this whole thing!!
Thank you, TEd. That laugh (plus assorted snorting and giggling) was worth coming to work for!!
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jheem is correct about dander (discarded skin) being the real problem. (take it from someone who was once allergic to nearly *everything.) the onliest relation to pet hair (and its length) is that long-hair pets which run around outside tend to collect other allergens such as grasses, molds and pollen.
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I allus understood that it isn't even the dander, it's the saliva of the mites that live in the dander.
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I allus understood that it isn't even the dander, it's the saliva of the mites that live in the dander.BLEAH strangest mix I have seen was Sparky who looked like a a black lab lying by the couch. Then he started moving and I realized that he had actually been standing up. Somebody's black lab had escaped and met a beagle. The result was a slightly overweight, extra-droopy black lab with 3 inch legs.
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Scoodles is starting to look like it should mean lots and lots, as in "I met this really dreamy Dr. and he's just got scoodles of money."
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"I met this really dreamy Dr. and he's just got scoodles of money."
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scoodles of money
Scary oodles of moolah? Mooscaoodles.
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Oh, Ted !
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Scary oodles
I later parsed it as a portmanteau word (where have we heard that recently?) formed from scads and oodles.
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