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#130434 - 07/21/04 09:25 PM SDS is not only a 60s radical campus organization  
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The classic SDS relies on inordinate length, culminating in an atrocious inversion of initial letters (which AIN'T a pun!) - like the "Basques in one exit" story (in its many variations.)

My impression of a Shaggy Dog Story is different. It comes from the paradigm tale of a man who lost his dog - it was a very shaggy dog - and has promised a BIG reward, and the story chronicles the adventures of a man trying to find and retrieve this very very shaggy dog and claim the reward. It involves harrowing experiences, narrow escapes, near misses, anything you like to make the story longer, and then when the storyteller finally takes pity on the audience and brings the story to an end, Our Hero brings this enormously shaggy dog back to the man who offered the reward in the first place (this homeward journey with dog in tow can be another adventure in itself), and the owner says..."Oh, no, that's not my dog, my dog wasn't THAT shaggy!"

So a Shaggy Dog Story is any long convoluted story that ends in a major anticlimax. Sometimes it's an utter urrelevancy. Puns are nice but only incidental. The details of the saga are unimportant to being called an SDS, though they certainly add sparkle to the tale, but it's more the length and complexity, and then the letdown.

Selected punchlines include
--the extended search for the famous "Tiz" bottle that ends with a row of bottles that when gently struck sound out the notes "Mike on Tree Tiz..." (to the notes C, C, D, B...)
--the long-lost coat, sought and finally found by an anthropomorphized moth, that turns out to be synthetic, the final line being "Did you ever see a moth bawl?"
to name just two.

I'm confident you know others!

#130435 - 07/21/04 09:25 PM Re: oy scare 'n' peer of knees  
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"Basques in one exit" ain't a pun?! But 'tis, ennit? A calembour by any other name is still paronomasiac no matter what. Shakes head: I've heard many a shaggy dog story that had a punning punchline. (Wanders off muttering ...)


#130436 - 07/21/04 09:30 PM On Beyond Spooner  
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There is an Official Name for that kind of wordplay involving inversion of letters or sounds from a common phrase: Puzzlewonks call it "Chiasmus."

#130437 - 07/22/04 11:37 AM Re: Why a mouse when it spins?  
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Because there is a b in both and an n in neither.

you forgot "and each begins with e".


#130438 - 07/22/04 12:01 PM How do you spell it?  
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Where the sun's rays meet.



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#130439 - 07/22/04 12:03 PM Re: How do you spell it?  
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Where the sun's rays meet.

That's not what I meant. I was referring to your apostrophized plural in: "where the son's raise meat."


#130440 - 07/22/04 12:52 PM Re: (which AIN'T a pun!)  
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>>>Am I correct in assuming that you reserve the term pun for those bon mots that use alternative spellings of words with the same pronunciation to invoke a groan from the audience?

Gotta tell you folks, Puns, SDS, word switcheroos...they ALL make us groan. We just shake our heads, mime "cuckoo-puffs" to one-another while pointing this way, and carry on as if nothing ever happened.


#130441 - 07/24/04 10:21 AM Re: (which AIN'T a pun!)  
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I got it!

"Whats a mouse when it spins" is a anagram.
But what does it mean?
Follow the deciphering...

What's a mouse
when it spins

rearrangingly becomes...

A tsuwm's a hoe
when it spins

rearrangingly becomes...

"a tsuwm's a hoe"
ain't hip news

This is strange because a tsuwm is not a hoe.
Everyone knows that a tsuwm's a rake.






#213328 - 11/22/13 07:51 PM Re: Why a mouse when it spins? [Re: wofahulicodoc]  
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I recall this from a children's book In and Out of Doors by Susan, Charlotte, Christopher, Amabel & Clough Williams-Ellis.

#220857 - 04/18/15 08:46 PM Re: Why a mouse when it spins? [Re: wofahulicodoc]  
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An Con-Man decided to try something new. He opened a medical clinic and put a sign up outside: "Get your treatment for $500, if not treated get back $1,000."

One Doctor thought this was a good opportunity to earn $1,000 and went to his clinic.

Doctor: "I have lost taste in my mouth."

Con-Man: "Nurse, please bring medicine from box 22 and put 3 drops in the patient's mouth."

Doctor: "This is gasoline!"

Con-Man: "Congratulations! You've got your taste back. That will be $500."

The Doctor gets annoyed and goes back after a couple of days later to recover his money.

Doctor: "I have lost my memory, I cannot remember anything."

Con-Man: "Nurse, please bring medicine from box 22 and put 3 drops in the patient's mouth."

Doctor: "But that is Gasoline!" That's what you gave me last time!

Con-Man: "Congratulations! You've got your memory back. That will be $500."

The Doctor leaves angrily and comes back after several more days.

Doctor: "My eyesight has become weak."

Con-Man: "Well, I don't have any medicine for this. Take this $1,000."

Doctor: "But this is $500..."

Con-Man: "Congratulations! You got your vision back! That will be $500."

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