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could be. as well all know, nothing is original. My coinage was simply combining thoughts about a musical shift away from psychedelic and all it involved, to a music much heavier and thundering, and the change in band names toward the similar. Previously, there were a lot of silly and/or zoologic band names (Beatles, Byrds, Turtles, Fish, Animals ... I can't think of them all)
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The punishment included being beaten up on by Margaret Mead and James Baldwin on the David Frost Show. I still have the bruises.
Given that Margaret Mead was a good Episcopalian and that David Frost is God (see below), we shall consider you shriven.
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A General once lived named de Gaulle,
Five hundred years old, ten yards tall.
He thought he was God,
Which was really quite odd,
For God's David Frost, if at all.
~author unknown
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I never thought of Led Zeppelin or Iron Butterfly as being what became heavy metal. I simply noted the names. Yes, Metallica fits the bill very well. As does, of course, the fictional epitome of the genre, the unforgettable Spinal Tap.
To me, the first band that sounded like what came to be known as heavy metal was MC5 playing its anthem "Kick Out the Jams." There is/was a documentary about them released/withdrawn with the past two weeks.
I can't go into what they meant by "jams" in polite company.
am my replies winding up online someplace? I intend them to, but am ignorant about the technology, among many other things. I've never done this before.
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John Kay. Don't know what became of him.
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Re hip jargon, I recently found a copy of the NY Times Magazine article I wrote in 1971 called "If you Think It's Groovy to Rap, You're Shucking." It was rather tongue in cheeky (damn, I like the way that sounds). It was a compendium of rock/hip/hippie jargon of the time. It's way too long to post, so as soon as I scan it I'll put it up on my rock site, Tales of the Ancient Rocker (www.geocities.com/theancientrocker). It's one of two sites I have, the other being Michael Jahn's New York, which goes into my mystery novels (written as Michael Jahn), the last of which being "Murder in Coney Island."
I do all this for fun, by the way. It's a break from the medical editing/website content management I do to pay the bills.
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So, you got beaten up by Margaret Mead and James Baldwin AND you didn't get your hairspray and leather pants. I'd say you've pretty much paid your debt to society.
Mind you, not getting the leather pants was probably a blessing in disguise...I know very little men on which leather pants look good, on most men, they’re kinda like those speedo bathing suits – Peter and the Bobsy twins are all you see.
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>I know very little men on which leather pants look good
Well, I'm a (very) little man, and I shudder to think of wearing leather pants.
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Takes a very big man to admit that max 
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Good to see you on, Mike. Stick around.
Hell, I played in bands for 25 years, the first 15 of them in "heavy-ish" bands. I never did like the "metal" part of the "heavy metal" expression, since it only appeared to fit a few bands, mostly as discussed above. "Heavy Rock" was what I called it, and still do. Not that I'm accusing you of anything, Mike. It's amazing what takes and what doesn't.
Spinal Tap had to be the ultimate expression of HM, didn't it? I have the DVD and watch it regularly when I need a good laugh. I also have the book and giggle my way through a few pages from time to time. I was rather fortunate to have a brother-in-law who was an amplifier genius (and part-time thief; he managed to lay his hands on Marshall circuits way back when). He rebuilt my amp for me and it went to 11/10, although it wasn't on the dial.
I only have a v-amp now, so no one else has to suffer ...
Led Zep was never HM. Never!
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I began referring to "heavy rock" in the Times one or two years before the "metal" part crept in. I was writing about "heavy bottom," i.e., prominent bass and deep chords, then "Iron Butt" slipped into my sentences as a logical addendum to the "heavy bottom" thought, then the "iron" from Iron Butterfly and the Led from you-know-who got tossed into the mix. Steppenwolf came along with "heavy metal thunder," referring to a vehicle, and one thing led, as it so often does, to another; the phrase "heavy metal" emerged.
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