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#127812 04/28/04 02:24 AM
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Today I saw a group of schoolchildren playing outside. They had been divided into red and blue teams by means of pieces of cloth that fit over the head, then tie around the waist. As I looked at them, the word "pinnies" popped into my head: that's what they were called way back when I was in school. I hadn't thought of that word for decades, I am sure; I got to wondering about nostalgia making one's memory better. And then I got to...hang on, I'd better put my starting questions:
Did anyone else here wear "pinnies"?
Has anyone else ever had an experience of coming across something for the first time in a long time, and having a long-forgotten memory triggered? Hmm--better say word memory, I think.

Ok--then I got to wondering about nostalgia. Is nostalgia only used when we refer to happy memories? Because most of my school days were not all that pleasant.


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A pinnie for your thoughts?


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Never worn one myself, in my mind they're an item of female clothing. My sister had one for her cookery classes. Short for pinafore.


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Is nostalgia only used when we refer to happy memories? - curiously enough, this seems to be the case, even though the word contains algos (=pain). Is there a part of masochism in nostalgia?


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many phys ed depts and sports teams use pinnies. a pinnie is usually a lightweight, mesh, vest-like pullover.



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It revives memories for me, too Jackie. My Mother always referred to her protective household wear as her "pinnie", whether it was a tie-on apron, which just covered the front of her skirt, or her coverall, which was a sleeveless coat.

As to nostalgia, I associate the term only with happy memories, but especially the sort that make you sad because they have gone and will never return. (Sometimes because the other people involved have done just that.)


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And nostos is from the Greek meaning 'return home' (< neomai 'to come back, return'). For me nostalgia always involves a little pain. The memories themselve are happy, but the longing is not. Cf. English homesickness, German Heimweh, and Brazilian saudade.


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i'd say pinnies are short for pinafores, (i didn't check the link) and a pinafore is a type apron --one with a bib up to the chest, and the front bib was pinned on to your dress bodice or shirt (it was pinned on the fore (or front) of your clothing)

i don't call the kind of apron that is more like a dress coat (sleeveless or short sleeved, snap closure down the front a 'models coat' (models wear them between clothing changes) a short coat/jacket of the same style (especially if it had a shoulder yoke and gathers below) a smock, and most others things aprons.

pinafore's are to me, not an apron but an apron stlye of clothing, often worn by children! some have 'bibs', some have yokes and front's and backs (like the ones worn by the 'little house on the praire' kids) they can be worn with a simple blouse or over a dress.

and as for nostalgia, yes, even painful memories can invoke nostalgia.


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For me nostalgia always involves a little pain.

Homesickness can be resolved by returning home (although that may not be an acceptable option). Nostalgia, to me, is a memory of things, times, people, that cannot be brought back or revisited and that is where the sadness lies.



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