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#125629 03/25/04 11:02 AM
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This is an artistic rendering of "Time Pissing Away":

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of "Time in decay"

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Every now and again there is a new flowering of art before we return to a new deflowering

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Is the next THING in art
A FART!


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If Dali were to do his famous clock again today, time wouldn't melt. It would probably defecate.


"Who made shit a sacrament?"

In any case, I retract my black pebble for Dali as a magical genius and replace it with nothing (an abstention). I don't have any basis whatever for judging what kind of a genius he might have been.




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Re: Dali: "I don't have any basis whatever for judging what kind of a genius he might have been.

The Guardian art critic Hughes went on to say that Dali held court at the St. Regis Hotel in New York and favored his visitors with "gusts of the worst foul breath" imaginable.

I will dig up the actual quote from The Guardian and post it to give Hughes the credit he deserves*.

It sounds like Dali brought a breath of fresh air to the art world, but gusts of foul breath to his fans.

Only a fan could get past the master's breath to reach the master's vision, it would seem.

*I don't know much about Dali myself except I own a limited edition pack of Tarot Cards he designed. The Tarot Cards are suitably dark and mysterious ... a Daliance with the devil?



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all that I've seen. They only have one of them in the national gallery, though. It's a modernistic crucifixion on one of the stair-cases. It's good to come upon the thing by surprise like that, but there's no place you can sit and enjoy it for several hours.

I can enjoy some art the way I can literature, but I don't consider myself competent to render judgement on any of it - other than to say "I like it" or "I don't like it."

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There's a lot of Dali that I like, and some that I don't, but whether or not his breath was foul has little to do with his art. He was also disfigured in later life by a fire. Perhaps that could be used as an esthetic criterion to judge his work. Maybe not.


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I can enjoy some art the way I can literature

Et moi aussi, TFF. But the comparison with literature extends even further. Some art needs to be "read" before it can be enjoyed.

I am no expert myself but I find that many things I passed over on my first encounter became absorbing when I became aware of the nuances or layers of meaning, or when I understood the artist's history.

These 'layers' make me think of a pun.

If you don't get the secondary meaning, the pun goes right over one's head.

But, again, I'm not trying to pass myself off as a discerning or knowledgeable art lover. I either "love" something or it leaves me cold.


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... but whether or not his breath was foul has little to do with his art. He was also disfigured in later life by a fire. Perhaps that could be used as an esthetic criterion to judge his work. Maybe not.

Yeah, jheem, like Frida Kahlo and others. Maybe we should start up a new thread on Artist's Intent (even if it has nothing to do with words)?


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whether or not his breath was foul has little to do with his art

We are all agreed, jheem and AnnaS, that Dali's breath has nothing to do with his art.

The Guardian art critic Robert Hughes was not critiquing Dali's art when he critiqued Dali's breath.

Dali's art has outlasted his breath. And I'm the happier for it.

I bought those Tarot Cards because I enjoy his art.

I didn't know anything about Dali's breath at the time except that he had drawn his last breath. [I thought that would make the Cards a better investment.]

BTW Van Gogh cut off his ear and that story is of interest to lovers of his art.

That doesn't mean that Van Gogh had no ear for music.

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There's a fantastic museum of Dali's works in St Petersburg, Florida. I was a confirmed Magritte afficionada prior to my visit there, but upon seeing the breadth of his work, I developed a lot more affection for him.

http://www.salvadordalimuseum.org/


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