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#123719 02/23/04 08:16 PM
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http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040220/FACTS20/

And remember, orient is a verbed noun, orientate has spent its entire English language existence as a verb.


#123720 02/24/04 01:00 PM
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Good article, David. And, yes, I find orientate makes a marvellous verb. Orient is east of me ...


#123721 02/24/04 01:03 PM
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orientate makes a marvellous verb

run away!



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#123722 02/24/04 01:08 PM
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Nope! Orientate is a ditch to die in ...


#123723 02/24/04 01:10 PM
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I'm waiting patiently for the back formation 'orientatation.'


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I'm sure that someone will oblige. Be patient!


#123725 02/24/04 01:23 PM
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Orient is from the present participle oriens 'rising' from the deponent verb orior, the past particple of which is ortus. So, the verb should be ort and the noun should be ortion. But that never happened, so we have to settle for the strange word orientate and its noun orientation. If you don't accept one, you shouldn't accept the other. Sure, it violates the grammar of Latin, but then so does the word bus from omnibus.


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the strange word orientate A--HA! So there, CK--put that in your pipe and smoke it!


#123727 02/25/04 02:04 PM
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it violates the grammar of Latin
a living language violating a dead one - is that necrophilia?


#123728 02/25/04 02:29 PM
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Would that verb form be 'necrophiliate'?

Faldo, let's just get as gritty-grating as possible and propose the verb orientationize


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