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Great links. Interesting to see snopes is there. I love that site.
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Here's a treasure Max may have already added to his link page, but I thought it needed special attention: http://frankdietz.com/glossary.htm
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wow. I may be gone some time...
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i didn't (don't remember) seeing this on Max's site.. it's somewhat interesting.. http://www.wordspy.comi like the subject index.
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Thanks, Troy, you've verified that at least one of the links on my page is still valid. 
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I had never before seen this site and, while it is a little too hip for an old dog like me, it is fun and includes some great (and useable) quotations. This is worth a look, if not a subscribe.
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In reply to:
Got this one, Max?
http://pages.zoom.co.uk/leveridge/dictionary.html
I have now. Mucho obrigado.
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Mucho obrigado.
This is, perhaps, an example of Portuñol?
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In reply to:
Mucho obrigado.
This is, perhaps, an example of Portuñol?
That was the idea, yep. Inspired, natch, by your good self, Your Honour.
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it'd be fun to see a bit of etymology on some of those terms. very interesting stuff.
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Thanks. There's a lot less English on that page than on most of the pages I link to, but I'll probably add it anyway.
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I've just received another link through the email address on my page. It looks interesting, even though large chunks of it are all greek to me. http://www.textkit.com/
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Thanks, F. Do you happen to know if there is any review of the user editing that is done? It's a little wiki-ish. In the case of wikipedia, there is no review of the user editing at all, so I could edit the page on Hannukkah to describe it as a Mayan blood sacrifice ritual, dedicated to the God Zarniwoop. I am loathe to point to a resource as easily invalidated.
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I suggested it for the wealth of old Germanic dictionaries, editing of which is all done and gone lo these many years hence. Might not be the latest research, but
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Good enough. I was just a little concerned by this:
"The Volunteer page contains a sophisticated web-based system which allows you to reserve a dictionary page, correct it, and submit the corrections. Please volunteer!"
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I don't think you have this one, Max: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/But beware. There's quicksand in there.
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Just a note to say that the address of my list has changed slightly http://maxqnzs.com/References.html
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Thanks to Lizzie on w/origins for pointing out the BBC site element: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/C54721Lots of interesting specific topics summarised – for example, see: Alphabets and writing systems / The development of the Western Alphabet.
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On the news tonight was a brief item about a fantastic new British Library resource, featuring a bank of recordings of UK accents and other regional speech markers. I thought some of you might be interested: http://www.collectbritain.co.uk/collections/dialects/
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Wo-ow; I just listened to the Yorkshire baker lady. Before I forget: I noticed that in this 1955 recording, she mentions a half a pound of sugar.
Golly--even though she's speaking so slowly, I have a hard time understanding some things. Owen--oven; buther and wather: butter and water; resins -- raisins; luf--loaf.
When my Yorkshire host family spoke to each other at their normal speed, I couldn't follow it at all.
Thanks, mav!
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> I couldn't follow it at all eeh bah goom, moss't Brits feel t'same way, lass!
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Perhaps others already use this and I have simply missed your mention of it, but in case it’s new to you too, I strongly suggest you check it out. There are an incredible number of interesting searchable texts available. Here’s a direct link to perhaps the most useful area for this board: http://www.questia.com/Index.jsp?CRID=word_origins&OFFID=se1&KEY=word_originThis takes you to the front end of all kinds of other topic searches! http://www.questia.com/Index.jsp
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a bank of recordings of UK accentsThis dialect collection was featured on NPR's Weekend Edition. I had little trouble following the Yorkshire lady*, but the Staffordshire collector really had me stymied! ~~~ *maybe because I can sing "On Ilkley Moor Baht'At." 
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http://www.acronyma.com/A remarkable acronym finder, searchable in several languages. (with thanks to aldiboronti @ w/origins)
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Io suis mucho grateful, mijn freund. Adeus!
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hey, didn't know you spoke Welsh!
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>hey, didn't know you spoke Welsh!
Does anybody?
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Are you taking the epistemology?
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For all interested in the languages of that region, this might be an interesting set of resources: http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/edit: and this is quite cool too: http://dsal.uchicago.edu/reference/gazetteer/ ~ a searchable copy of The Imperial Gazetteer of India
Hunter, William Wilson, Sir, 1840-1900
Cotton, James Sutherland, 1847-1918 ed.
Burn, Richard, Sir, 1871-1947 joint ed.
Meyer, William Stevenson, Sir, 1860-1922. joint ed.
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New edition, published under the authority of His Majesty's secretary of state for India in council.
Oxford, Clarendon Press, 1908-1931 [v. 1, 1909]~ with a nod to languagelog's quote of Dick & Garlick's blog: http://dickandgarlick.blogspot.com/2005/06/burgers-bun-kababs.html
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Thanks, mav. I had the hobson-jobson from that that list but the Dick & Garlick's page was new to me. Now if I ever get to visit family in Pakistan, I can de-burgerise my speech to fit in.
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If you ever wonder about the mix of leaves in the Tossed Salad of A, here's the tool to tell you in case you haven't seen this before: http://www.mla.org/census_map
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the tool
"I'm sorry, Dave, but I'm afraid I can't write software that will communicate with your browser."
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> browser
woiked fine for me?
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I mighta made it all the way through life without knowing that there are 446 Navajo language speakers in the State of Washington. In that it is a long way from here to where the Navajo language is commonly spoken, one wonders as to the rest of this story.
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The Navajo came to the Arizona/New Mexico region some time around 1100 AD from somewhere in California, but their language is a member of the Athebaskan language group that is mostly represented by languages in the Pacific Northwest. Navajo and Apache are pretty much mutually comprehensible. Whether other Athebaskan languages share this trait with Navajo and Apache I don't know.
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Lyle Campbell, American Indian Languages: The Historical Linguistics of Native America, Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1997.
Ives Goddard (Ed.), Languages, vol. 17, Handbook of North American Indians, Washington, DC: Smithsonian Institution, 1996.
Marianne Mithun, The Languages of Native North America, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2001.
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New edition of UNESCO’s Atlas of the World's Languages in Danger language map Here are languages and dialects most unheard of (by me anyway). Endagered Languages World-map (long pdf download )really nice to zoom in on it. (immo)
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This map holds a wealth of info. So many languages left with
only one or two persons speaking it. Makes me want to take
one on if only to preserve it.
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According to the newspaper article that brought me to this site, languagediversity is to culture what biodiversity is to nature. On the list of countries counting the most endangered languages India is on top (196), followed by the United States (192) and Indonesia (147). The last speaker of Eyak, a language of Alaska died last year. So, you have the choice of 192 U.S. languages if you want to take one on. Which will it be? In my area I could choose Ripuarisch  , a language spoken in Rhineland.
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We had a newspaper article yesterday that pertains to this
topic.
According to the article, only one native speaker of Livonian
remains on Earth, in Latvia. Eyak, an Alaskan language, died
last year with its last speaker.
These are two of nearly 2000 that UNESCO says have gone extinct
or in danger of doing so.
With each language being a vessel of culture, a repository for
a unique set of feelings, expressions, wisdoms, ways of looking
at the world, it is worth preserving.
According to the article, in the USA alone more than a fourth
of the 192 languages once spoken have disappeared; 71 are
severely endangered, e.g., Gros Ventre (fewer than 10); Menomonee
(35 speakers).
Livonian is being revived by being taught in schools to young
peole in Latvia and thru poetry.
Sort of makes one want to learn one to help the cause along..
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Kurdish Some languages are endagered because they are banned.
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Hi,
This is a wonderful opinion. The things mentioned are unanimous and needs to be appreciated by everyone.
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If we had spam, we could have spam and eggs, if we had eggs. But wait... All we need is the eggs now.
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Kurdish Some languages are endagered because they are banned. Many, many, Native American languages were banned by Christian Missionary Schools on reservations and in native villages as the 'savages' were 'saved', leading thus to their dying out.
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I love astronomy, and I understand from another poster to this site (AWAD)that some of you may also be interested. I go to this site daily, and love it, so I offer it, to whomever may be interested: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.htmlAnd thanks to the "other" poster for the suggestion. This person understand my hesitancy at times, but it was a good suggestion if others may benefit. I have learned here a lot of things and wish I could offer more.
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Nice this site, Lukejavan8. A daily trip to heaven can't do any harm. Really astonishing beautiful photos and also useful as a language link. Many uncommon (to me anyway) words to learn + anecdotes such as the
Charles II part in the spam thread. Thanks!
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Ah, the APOD.
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The Daily WTF
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Well, there's things we cannot say in words, so we have images. There are things we cannot say with images, that's why we have words. And there are things we can say in neither images nor words, that's why we have music. But I'm sure the first thing I'm gonna see when I will die is this Whale Galaxy : link Cause I have no words for the beauty of it.
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Amen.
And the mind-boggling thing is that each of those simple points of colored light might represent an entire solar system like ours. I cannot perceive of infinity. I thought it would be easier if I break down the problem. So, I am contemplating half of infinity!
"I am certain there is too much certainty in the world" -Michael Crichton
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That is beautiful! But they provided a humpback whale image link, and it's really not like a humpback; it resembles almost perfectly a Minke: Minke whale I have seen Minkes, but not much of them, as they are shy and not prone to breaching often. Humpbacks are fascinating and beautiful. I have been as close as about 10 feet from one as it dove shallowly underneath the boat, its "wings" spread out wide. So huge and mighty, yet so gentle... :0)
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Wooh! Never saw that one before, what a streamlined snout. I went after minke: allegedly this:
Quote: Minke; Also called minke whale, lesser rorqual.
Origin:
1930–35; < Norw minkehval, allegedly after a crew member of the Norwegian whaling pioneer Svend Foyn (1809–94), named Meincke, who mistook a pod of minkes for blue whales.
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If we had spam, we could have spam and eggs, if we had eggs. But wait... All we need is the eggs now. It depends. Are you writing about Spam or spam? I had Spam and eggs just the other day. During World War II, my dad survived on Spam while serving in the South Pacific. The only fresh meat they had was Australian sheep that came frozen in the entire carcass. He said that they looked so much like dogs that he could not get his mind past the obstacle so turned to Spam almost exclusively.
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Kurdish Some languages are endagered because they are banned. Many, many, Native American languages were banned by Christian Missionary Schools on reservations and in native villages as the 'savages' were 'saved', leading thus to their dying out. I think you are only half correct. The missionaries could certainly ban the use of their students native languages in their schools; but they could hardly ban them on the reservations. That would have taken the collusion of the Federal Indian Agents. I have a friend and former seminary classmate who is a missionary to Indians in the Pacific Northwest today and the mission with which he is associated is doing as much as it can to maintain the native languages of the tribes to which they minister.
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If I read this sentence correctly :
"Many, many, Native American languages were banned by Christian Missionary Schools on reservations and in native villages as the 'savages' were 'saved', leading thus to their dying out." _ it says exactly the same thing you say.
NB. It says by schools on reservations and in villages, not just on reservations and in villages.
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That is beautiful! But they provided a humpback whale image link, and it's really not like a humpback; it resembles almost perfectly a Minke: Minke whale I have seen Minkes, but not much of them, as they are shy and not prone to breaching often. Humpbacks are fascinating and beautiful. I have been as close as about 10 feet from one as it dove shallowly underneath the boat, its "wings" spread out wide. So huge and mighty, yet so gentle... :0) Absolutely magnificent. Thanks for sharing.
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If I read this sentence correctly :
"Many, many, Native American languages were banned by Christian Missionary Schools on reservations and in native villages as the 'savages' were 'saved', leading thus to their dying out." _ it says exactly the same thing you say.
NB. It says by schools on reservations and in villages, not just on reservations and in villages. That is correct. Not only on reservations. Sorry for the cynicism, but it roils my native American blood to have had our children forcibly Christianized and "civilized" and Americanized. And I am only part Native American. Forcibly taking whole tribes to a river and "baptizing' them without any idea of what was going on (cf movie: "Mission"). Don't want to start a fight here, just expressing an opinion.
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Hello, all. As a language coach in Paris, some of you might be interested in the language and cross-cultural notes on my blog. Regards to all at Wordsmith! http://www.paris-savannah.com
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That post has been reported and will be taken care of.
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Very good, still it felt good to say that. Very good.
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still it felt good to say that.
I applauded your command of the idiom. (Or is it the same in Dutch?)
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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That post has been reported and will be taken care of. and can one assume that monclerr112 has been reported for numerous transgressions, as well?!
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I looked up Ugg boots. Now I know what they are.
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Or is it the same in Dutch?
No, maybe I have a talent for commands.
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Not to change the subject or anything, but here's a link to the Online Dictionary of Language Terminology. Looks like a good resource.
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so now we're not only getting spammed, execrably, but we're knee deep in reduplicated spam!
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although this thread is long dormant, I can't be arsed (as Capfka would have had it), to figure out a better place to note that Max' site is gone, and I haven't found a trace of it, or Max himself for that matter. -tsuwm wwftd
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btw, has anyone noted that, somehow, Faldage contrived to avoid surpassing ol' wwh as the Top Poster (All Time)?
there was never much never-mind paid to these board stats, but perhaps this does qualify as humor, in a jugular vein...
[h/t to alfred e neuman]
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Yes. A deliberate gesture of respect on his part, I expect...
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