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#123307 - 02/19/04 01:19 PM Useful language links  
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#123308 - 03/08/04 01:16 PM Re: Useful language links  
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Great links. Interesting to see snopes is there. I love that site.


#123309 - 03/10/04 02:29 PM Glossaries  
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Here's a treasure Max may have already added to his link page, but I thought it needed special attention:

http://frankdietz.com/glossary.htm


#123310 - 03/11/04 05:18 PM Re: Glossaries  
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wow. I may be gone some time...


#123311 - 03/21/04 08:09 PM Ted and Sylvia  
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Anyone seen this one - from AWADMail today

http://members.cox.net/2dellis/sylvia/


#123312 - 05/29/04 02:28 AM Re: Useful language links  
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I've just added a site I hadn't seen before on English Idioms:
http://home.t-online.de/home/toni.goeller/idiom_wm/


#123313 - 05/30/04 05:56 PM Re: Useful language links  
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i didn't (don't remember) seeing this on Max's site.. it's somewhat interesting..

http://www.wordspy.com

i like the subject index.


#123314 - 05/30/04 08:38 PM Re: Useful language links  
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Thanks, Troy, you've verified that at least one of the links on my page is still valid.


#123315 - 05/30/04 11:48 PM Word Spy  
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I had never before seen this site and, while it is a little too hip for an old dog like me, it is fun and includes some great (and useable) quotations. This is worth a look, if not a subscribe.


#123316 - 05/31/04 01:32 PM What about ...  
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... a site listing author's pseudonyms?
http://www.trussel.com/books/aka.htm


#123317 - 05/31/04 08:41 PM Re: What about ...  
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Thanks, Jackie.


#123318 - 06/19/04 09:18 PM Re: Useful language links  
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#123319 - 06/20/04 01:58 AM Re: Useful language links  
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In reply to:

Got this one, Max?

http://pages.zoom.co.uk/leveridge/dictionary.html


I have now. Mucho obrigado.


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Mucho obrigado.

This is, perhaps, an example of Portuñol?




#123321 - 06/20/04 07:17 AM Re: Useful language links  
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In reply to:

Mucho obrigado.

This is, perhaps, an example of Portuñol?


That was the idea, yep. Inspired, natch, by your good self, Your Honour.




#123322 - 06/20/04 07:41 PM Hobo dictionary  
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#123323 - 06/20/04 08:49 PM Re: Hobo dictionary  
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it'd be fun to see a bit of etymology on some of those terms. very interesting stuff.



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#123324 - 07/03/04 11:56 AM Re: Hobo dictionary  
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how about this one, Max?
http://www.etymologie.info/~e/@_/@_-sprach.html

got it via LanguageHat.



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#123325 - 07/03/04 06:52 PM Re: Hobo dictionary  
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Thanks. There's a lot less English on that page than on most of the pages I link to, but I'll probably add it anyway.


#123326 - 07/28/04 09:00 PM Re: Useful language links  
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I've just received another link through the email address on my page. It looks interesting, even though large chunks of it are all greek to me.
http://www.textkit.com/


#123327 - 09/17/04 10:13 PM Re: Useful language links  
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D'ye hae this ane?

http://www.dsl.ac.uk/dsl/


#123328 - 09/18/04 12:17 AM Re: D'ya ken this link?  
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Not until now. Thanks.


#123329 - 09/23/04 10:07 PM Re: D'ya ken this link?  
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Another one from the gold mine that is aldiboronti of wordorigins:

http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/language_resources.html


#123330 - 09/23/04 11:24 PM Re: D'ya ken this link?  
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Thanks, F. Do you happen to know if there is any review of the user editing that is done? It's a little wiki-ish. In the case of wikipedia, there is no review of the user editing at all, so I could edit the page on Hannukkah to describe it as a Mayan blood sacrifice ritual, dedicated to the God Zarniwoop. I am loathe to point to a resource as easily invalidated.


#123331 - 09/24/04 12:48 AM Re: D'ya ken this link?  
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I suggested it for the wealth of old Germanic dictionaries, editing of which is all done and gone lo these many years hence. Might not be the latest research, but


#123332 - 09/24/04 04:57 AM Re: D'ya ken this link?  
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Good enough. I was just a little concerned by this:
"The Volunteer page contains a sophisticated web-based system which allows you to reserve a dictionary page, correct it, and submit the corrections. Please volunteer!"


#123333 - 09/30/04 01:13 AM Re: Useful language links  
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I don't think you have this one, Max:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/

But beware. There's quicksand in there.


#123334 - 12/24/04 07:40 PM Re: Useful language links  
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Just a note to say that the address of my list has changed slightly
http://maxqnzs.com/References.html


#123335 - 02/19/05 12:58 AM Re: Useful language links  
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From maverick:
Here's another...?

http://www.zompist.com/langfaq.html




#123336 - 02/25/05 11:41 PM Re: Useful language links  
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Thanks to Lizzie on w/origins for pointing out the BBC site element:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/C54721

Lots of interesting specific topics summarised – for example, see: Alphabets and writing systems / The development of the Western Alphabet.



#123337 - 03/02/05 11:33 PM Re: Useful language links  
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On the news tonight was a brief item about a fantastic new British Library resource, featuring a bank of recordings of UK accents and other regional speech markers. I thought some of you might be interested:

http://www.collectbritain.co.uk/collections/dialects/



#123338 - 03/03/05 02:38 AM Re: Useful language links  
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Wo-ow; I just listened to the Yorkshire baker lady. Before I forget: I noticed that in this 1955 recording, she mentions a half a pound of sugar.
Golly--even though she's speaking so slowly, I have a hard time understanding some things. Owen--oven; buther and wather: butter and water; resins -- raisins; luf--loaf.

When my Yorkshire host family spoke to each other at their normal speed, I couldn't follow it at all.
Thanks, mav!


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> I couldn't follow it at all

eeh bah goom, moss't Brits feel t'same way, lass!


#123340 - 03/07/05 10:56 AM Re: (another) Useful language link  
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Perhaps others already use this and I have simply missed your mention of it, but in case it’s new to you too, I strongly suggest you check it out. There are an incredible number of interesting searchable texts available. Here’s a direct link to perhaps the most useful area for this board:

http://www.questia.com/Index.jsp?CRID=word_origins&OFFID=se1&KEY=word_origin


This takes you to the front end of all kinds of other topic searches!

http://www.questia.com/Index.jsp



#123341 - 03/07/05 12:19 PM Re: Useful language links  
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a bank of recordings of UK accents

This dialect collection was featured on NPR's Weekend Edition. I had little trouble following the Yorkshire lady*, but the Staffordshire collector really had me stymied!

~~~
*maybe because I can sing "On Ilkley Moor Baht'At."


#123342 - 03/13/05 10:41 PM Another Shakespeare link  
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#123343 - 03/29/05 02:12 PM Urban slang dictionary  
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#123344 - 06/10/05 09:27 PM Re: nother resource  
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http://www.acronyma.com/

A remarkable acronym finder, searchable in several languages.

(with thanks to aldiboronti @ w/origins)


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Io suis mucho grateful, mijn freund. Adeus!


#123346 - 06/10/05 10:24 PM Re: nother resource  
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hey, didn't know you spoke Welsh!


#123347 - 06/11/05 09:32 AM Re: nother resource  
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>hey, didn't know you spoke Welsh!

Does anybody?


#123348 - 06/11/05 05:21 PM Re: nother resource  
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Are you taking the epistemology?


#123349 - 06/11/05 10:09 PM Re: Linguistics terms gloss  
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#123350 - 06/13/05 10:26 PM Re: Digi-dics of South Asia  
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For all interested in the languages of that region, this might be an interesting set of resources:

http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/

edit: and this is quite cool too:
http://dsal.uchicago.edu/reference/gazetteer/
~ a searchable copy of The Imperial Gazetteer of India
Hunter, William Wilson, Sir, 1840-1900
Cotton, James Sutherland, 1847-1918 ed.
Burn, Richard, Sir, 1871-1947 joint ed.
Meyer, William Stevenson, Sir, 1860-1922. joint ed.
....................................
New edition, published under the authority of His Majesty's secretary of state for India in council.
Oxford, Clarendon Press, 1908-1931 [v. 1, 1909]




~ with a nod to languagelog's quote of Dick & Garlick's blog:
http://dickandgarlick.blogspot.com/2005/06/burgers-bun-kababs.html


#123351 - 06/13/05 10:36 PM Re: Digi-dics of South Asia  
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Thanks, mav. I had the hobson-jobson from that that list but the Dick & Garlick's page was new to me. Now if I ever get to visit family in Pakistan, I can de-burgerise my speech to fit in.


#123352 - 06/13/05 10:59 PM Re: Multilipass! Multipass!  
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Anyone tried this site? - it looks to be clean and effective on first trial...

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html


#123353 - 06/13/05 11:34 PM Re: French, Italian speakers in USA?  
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If you ever wonder about the mix of leaves in the Tossed Salad of A, here's the tool to tell you in case you haven't seen this before:

http://www.mla.org/census_map


#123354 - 06/14/05 10:01 AM Re: French, Italian speakers in USA?  
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the tool

"I'm sorry, Dave, but I'm afraid I can't write software that will communicate with your browser."


#123355 - 06/14/05 11:15 AM Re: French, Italian speakers in USA?  
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> browser

woiked fine for me?



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#123356 - 06/14/05 12:38 PM Re: French, Italian speakers in USA?  
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I mighta made it all the way through life without knowing that there are 446 Navajo language speakers in the State of Washington. In that it is a long way from here to where the Navajo language is commonly spoken, one wonders as to the rest of this story.


#123357 - 06/14/05 09:53 PM The rest of the story  
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The Navajo came to the Arizona/New Mexico region some time around 1100 AD from somewhere in California, but their language is a member of the Athebaskan language group that is mostly represented by languages in the Pacific Northwest. Navajo and Apache are pretty much mutually comprehensible. Whether other Athebaskan languages share this trait with Navajo and Apache I don't know.


#123358 - 06/15/05 05:03 AM Re: The rest of the story  
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Lyle Campbell, American Indian Languages: The Historical Linguistics of Native America, Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1997.

Ives Goddard (Ed.), Languages, vol. 17, Handbook of North American Indians, Washington, DC: Smithsonian Institution, 1996.

Marianne Mithun, The Languages of Native North America, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2001.



#123359 - 08/02/05 09:05 PM Glossary  
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Huge list for archaic/Shakespearian/poetical words:

http://www.geocities.com/poeminister/dictionary

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New edition of UNESCO’s Atlas of the World's Languages in Danger
language map Here are languages and dialects most unheard of (by me anyway).

Endagered Languages World-map (long pdf download )really nice to zoom in on it. (immo)

#182867 - 02/23/09 09:57 PM Re: Wordteque [Re: BranShea]  
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This map holds a wealth of info. So many languages left with
only one or two persons speaking it. Makes me want to take
one on if only to preserve it.


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According to the newspaper article that brought me to this site, languagediversity is to culture what biodiversity is to nature.
On the list of countries counting the most endangered languages
India is on top (196), followed by the United States (192) and Indonesia (147). The last speaker of Eyak, a language of Alaska died last year. So, you have the choice of 192 U.S. languages if you want to take one on. Which will it be? In my area I could choose Ripuarisch frown , a language spoken in Rhineland.

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We had a newspaper article yesterday that pertains to this
topic.
According to the article, only one native speaker of Livonian
remains on Earth, in Latvia. Eyak, an Alaskan language, died
last year with its last speaker.
These are two of nearly 2000 that UNESCO says have gone extinct
or in danger of doing so.
With each language being a vessel of culture, a repository for
a unique set of feelings, expressions, wisdoms, ways of looking
at the world, it is worth preserving.
According to the article, in the USA alone more than a fourth
of the 192 languages once spoken have disappeared; 71 are
severely endangered, e.g., Gros Ventre (fewer than 10); Menomonee
(35 speakers).
Livonian is being revived by being taught in schools to young
peole in Latvia and thru poetry.
Sort of makes one want to learn one to help the cause along..


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Some languages are endagered because they are banned.

#184485 - 04/25/09 09:16 AM Hi [Re: AnnaStrophic]  
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Hi,

This is a wonderful opinion. The things mentioned are unanimous and needs to be appreciated by everyone.

robinson





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If we had spam, we could have spam and eggs, if we had eggs. But wait... All we need is the eggs now.

#184501 - 04/26/09 02:39 AM Re: Wordteque [Re: BranShea]  
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Some languages are endagered because they are banned.


Many, many, Native American languages were banned by Christian Missionary Schools on reservations and in native villages as the 'savages' were 'saved', leading thus to their dying out.


----please, draw me a sheep----
#184611 - 05/02/09 11:28 PM Astronomy [Re: LukeJavan8]  
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I love astronomy, and I understand from another poster to this
site (AWAD)that some of you may also be interested. I go to
this site daily, and love it, so I offer it, to whomever
may be interested:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

And thanks to the "other" poster for the suggestion. This
person understand my hesitancy at times, but it was a good
suggestion if others may benefit. I have learned here a lot
of things and wish I could offer more.

Last edited by LukeJavan8; 05/03/09 01:36 AM.

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#184628 - 05/03/09 05:17 PM Re: Astronomy [Re: LukeJavan8]  
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Nice this site, Lukejavan8. A daily trip to heaven can't do any harm. Really astonishing beautiful photos and also useful as a language link. Many uncommon (to me anyway) words to learn + anecdotes such as the
Charles II part in the spam thread. Thanks!

#184639 - 05/04/09 11:15 AM Re: Astronomy [Re: BranShea]  
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Ah, the APOD.
On my corporate computer I have three Internet links in the Windows 'Startup' group that automatically start my day;
AWAD
APOD
The Daily WTF

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#184653 - 05/05/09 07:36 AM Re: Astronomy [Re: ParkinT]  
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Well, there's things we cannot say in words, so we have images. There are things we cannot say with images, that's why we have words. And there are things we can say in neither images nor words, that's why we have music.
But I'm sure the first thing I'm gonna see when I will die is this Whale Galaxy : link Cause I have no words for the beauty of it.

#184656 - 05/05/09 12:15 PM Re: Astronomy [Re: BranShea]  
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Amen.
And the mind-boggling thing is that each of those simple points of colored light might represent an entire solar system like ours. I cannot perceive of infinity. I thought it would be easier if I break down the problem. So, I am contemplating half of infinity!


"I am certain there is too much certainty in the world" -Michael Crichton
#184666 - 05/05/09 05:51 PM Re: Astronomy [Re: BranShea]  
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That is beautiful! But they provided a humpback whale image link, and it's really not like a humpback; it resembles almost perfectly a Minke: Minke whale I have seen Minkes, but not much of them, as they are shy and not prone to breaching often. Humpbacks are fascinating and beautiful. I have been as close as about 10 feet from one as it dove shallowly underneath the boat, its "wings" spread out wide. So huge and mighty, yet so gentle... :0)

#184667 - 05/05/09 06:28 PM Re: Astronomy [Re: twosleepy]  
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Wooh! Never saw that one before, what a streamlined snout. I went after minke: allegedly this:

Quote: Minke; Also called minke whale, lesser rorqual.

Origin:
1930–35; < Norw minkehval, allegedly after a crew member of the Norwegian whaling pioneer Svend Foyn (1809–94), named Meincke, who mistook a pod of minkes for blue whales.

from dictionary.com)

#184675 - 05/06/09 02:13 AM Re: Hi [Re: Faldage]  
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Originally Posted By: Faldage
If we had spam, we could have spam and eggs, if we had eggs. But wait... All we need is the eggs now.


It depends. Are you writing about Spam or spam? I had Spam and eggs just the other day.

During World War II, my dad survived on Spam while serving in the South Pacific. The only fresh meat they had was Australian sheep that came frozen in the entire carcass. He said that they looked so much like dogs that he could not get his mind past the obstacle so turned to Spam almost exclusively.

#184676 - 05/06/09 02:18 AM Re: Wordteque [Re: LukeJavan8]  
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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8
Originally Posted By: BranShea
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Some languages are endagered because they are banned.


Many, many, Native American languages were banned by Christian Missionary Schools on reservations and in native villages as the 'savages' were 'saved', leading thus to their dying out.


I think you are only half correct. The missionaries could certainly ban the use of their students native languages in their schools; but they could hardly ban them on the reservations. That would have taken the collusion of the Federal Indian Agents.

I have a friend and former seminary classmate who is a missionary to Indians in the Pacific Northwest today and the mission with which he is associated is doing as much as it can to maintain the native languages of the tribes to which they minister.

#184680 - 05/06/09 11:47 AM Re: Wordteque [Re: PastorVon]  
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If I read this sentence correctly :
"Many, many, Native American languages were banned by Christian Missionary Schools on reservations and in native villages as the 'savages' were 'saved', leading thus to their dying out." _ it says exactly the same thing you say.

NB. It says by schools on reservations and in villages, not just on reservations and in villages.

#184716 - 05/10/09 04:51 PM Re: Astronomy [Re: twosleepy]  
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Originally Posted By: twosleepy
That is beautiful! But they provided a humpback whale image link, and it's really not like a humpback; it resembles almost perfectly a Minke: Minke whale I have seen Minkes, but not much of them, as they are shy and not prone to breaching often. Humpbacks are fascinating and beautiful. I have been as close as about 10 feet from one as it dove shallowly underneath the boat, its "wings" spread out wide. So huge and mighty, yet so gentle... :0)



Absolutely magnificent. Thanks for sharing.


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#184717 - 05/10/09 04:54 PM Re: Wordteque [Re: BranShea]  
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Originally Posted By: BranShea
If I read this sentence correctly :
"Many, many, Native American languages were banned by Christian Missionary Schools on reservations and in native villages as the 'savages' were 'saved', leading thus to their dying out." _ it says exactly the same thing you say.

NB. It says by schools on reservations and in villages, not just on reservations and in villages.


That is correct. Not only on reservations. Sorry for the cynicism, but it roils my native American blood
to have had our children forcibly Christianized and "civilized" and Americanized. And I am only part
Native American. Forcibly taking whole tribes to a river and "baptizing' them without any idea of what
was going on (cf movie: "Mission"). Don't want to start a fight here, just expressing an opinion.


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#191126 - 05/16/10 07:32 PM Re: Useful language links [Re: AnnaStrophic]  
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Hello, all. As a language coach in Paris, some of you might be interested in the language and cross-cultural notes on my blog.

Regards to all at Wordsmith!

http://www.paris-savannah.com

#193606 - 10/23/10 01:53 PM Re: What about ... [Re: ]  
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Shove your stuff.

#193609 - 10/23/10 05:07 PM Re: What about ... [Re: BranShea]  
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That post has been reported and will be taken care of.

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Very good, still it felt good to say that. Very good.

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still it felt good to say that.

I applauded your command of the idiom. (Or is it the same in Dutch?)


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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That post has been reported and will be taken care of.


and can one assume that monclerr112 has been reported for numerous transgressions, as well?!

#193613 - 10/23/10 11:13 PM Re: What about ... [Re: AnnaStrophic]  
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Sure has.

#193616 - 10/24/10 01:40 AM Re: What about ... [Re: AnnaStrophic]  
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I looked up Ugg boots. Now I know what they are.

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#193625 - 10/24/10 11:49 AM Re: What about ... [Re: zmjezhd]  
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Or is it the same in Dutch?

No, maybe I have a talent for commands.

#193627 - 10/24/10 11:59 AM ODLT [Re: BranShea]  
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Not to change the subject or anything, but here's a link to the Online Dictionary of Language Terminology. Looks like a good resource.

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this too shall pass
so now we're not only getting spammed, execrably, but we're knee deep in reduplicated spam!

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