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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 2 1 2 Re: Pirates of Penance #122102 02/04/04 01:41 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont assignment of penance I won't refer you to Jackie's post. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: #122103 02/04/04 01:53 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky glad that this thread has stayed on the interesting subject of an obscure language, Oops-- . Isn't it neat how, when we think we know so much, a new "discovery" is made? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: #122104 02/04/04 01:55 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 I haven't listened to the report yet, but, what do we know about this language? Is it related to any other languages? Is it an isolate? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: #122105 02/04/04 02:05 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic OP Carpal Tunnel OP AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York It's in the Turkic family and was severely repressed (as were all 'native' languages) during the Soviet regime. The oldest speaker is in her 90s and the youngest in his 50s. As for the rest of y'all: () Edit: I had the brilliant idea of looking at the college's web site, et Viola's yer aunt! Here's the full story: http://www.swarthmore.edu/news/releases/04/harrison.html/ Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: #122106 02/04/04 02:32 PM Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK D dxb Pooh-Bah dxb Pooh-Bah D Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK In all seriousness, is it possible for a language to survive, enabling information of the type mentioned in the article to be retained, if new generations do not wish to trouble to learn it? Can it be kept and bred in captivity, as it were? I would think not. Faldage, our doughty non-prescriptivist supreme, I'm sure would agree that, as a matter of principle, no one should even attempt it. After all, if words drop out of use so be it... Father Steve on the other hand... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: #122107 02/04/04 02:39 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 I think there is much that will be lost when the last speaker dies, but the comments on the unique number system and grammatical structures raise some interesting questions and aspects of these can be saved in some sort of preserved under glass mode, potentially useful to linguists and students of the mind. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: endangered languages #122108 02/04/04 02:44 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California J jheem veteran jheem veteran J Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California For more info on endangered languages: http://www.ogmios.org/home.htm http://www.ling.yale.edu/~elf/ http://www.helsinki.fi/~tasalmin/europe_index.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Middle Chylum #122109 02/04/04 02:47 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California J jheem veteran jheem veteran J Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California Hmm. A cilam is also a simple clay pipe. I bought one in Kathmandu. The Chilam Balam is a sacred text of the Maya. 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