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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 2 1 2 callow #121615 01/30/04 02:12 AM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh OP Carpal Tunnel OP wwh Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 O.Henry uses the word in an unusual way. I wondered what the etymology might be. The definition given by AHD doesn't jibe with the definition, which in one word is "immature" But the etymology is from a word meaning "bald". Well, absence of testosterone may delay scalp hair loss. The chippy chippy chop on a big black block between the thighs is a high price to pay for a head of hair. I have never seen, and do not expect ever to see a bald callow youth. "The callow grass between the walks was the color of verdigris, a poisonous green, reminiscent of the horde of derelict humans that had breathed upon the soil during the summer and autumn." callow SYLLABICATION: cal·low PRONUNCIATION: kl ADJECTIVE: Lacking adult maturity or experience; immature: a callow young man. ETYMOLOGY: Middle English calwe, bald, from Old English calu. OTHER FORMS: callow·ness —NOUN Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: callow=bald #121616 01/30/04 02:23 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 In extreme youth, as in extreme age, baldness prevails. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: callow=bald #121617 01/30/04 03:30 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh OP Carpal Tunnel OP wwh Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Dear Faldage: I've seen newborns with more hair than I've got now. I never saw a bald one. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: callow #121618 02/04/04 07:41 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta B Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta In reply to: I have never seen, and do not expect ever to see a bald callow youth. I beg to differ. I've always thought of callow as describing the personality associated with youth rather than physical chaaracteristics, so a bald callow youth is quite possible. Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: callow #121619 02/05/04 12:05 AM Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... W Wordwind Carpal Tunnel Wordwind Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... Try to remember that time in September when _________ were ___________ and ____________ were callow. Fill in the blanks. My memory is refusing to do so. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: callow #121620 02/05/04 12:15 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/thefantasticks/trytoremember.htm Music: Harvey Schmidt Lyrics: Tom Jones Book: Tom Jones Premiere: Tuesday, May 3, 1960 Try to remember the kind of September When life was slow and oh, so mellow. Try to remember the kind of September When grass was green and grain was yellow. Try to remember the kind of September When you were a tender and callow fellow. Try to remember, and if you remember, Then follow. Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, Follow, follow, follow, follow. Try to remember when life was so tender That no one wept except the willow. Try to remember when life was so tender That dreams were kept beside your pillow. Try to remember when life was so tender That love was an ember about to billow. Try to remember, and if you remember, Then follow. Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, Follow, follow, follow, follow. Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, Follow, follow, follow, follow. Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, Follow, follow, follow, follow. Deep in December, it's nice to remember, Although you know the snow will follow. Deep in December, it's nice to remember, Without a hurt the heart is hollow. Deep in December, it's nice to remember, The fire of September that made us mellow. Deep in December, our hearts should remember And follow. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: callow #121621 02/05/04 12:22 AM Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... W Wordwind Carpal Tunnel Wordwind Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... Thanks, et'. That song has my favorite use of 'callow,' even though I couldn't remember my favorite! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: follow #121622 02/05/04 12:29 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont you're welcome. though I can't quite picture a billowing ember... formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: follow #121623 02/05/04 12:34 AM Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui >billowing ember I did a quick google on this phrase, and found only one hit for "billowing ember". I guess the author was thinking about fiery-red hair: ----------------------------------- He lifted another lock of hair form Diana's face, a wonder at her perfect beauty even as she slept. He loved her doe-like eyes, he resisted kissing them. He knew she didn't consider herself very beautiful. Simply pretty. He'd change that. Did she not know that many men, knew she was breath-taking? Her eyes, so expressive, her billowing ember locks, her perfect athletic body, the angle of her nose, even the faint freckles he found enduring. ------------------------------ If you want more, see http://jsd119.tripod.com/3rdseas/3rd_r/dream/dream29.html noho ora mai http://maxqnzs.com/References.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: follow #121624 02/05/04 12:39 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont that sounds like a typo to me. wouldn't it read better as billowing amber locks? formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: follow #121625 02/05/04 12:42 AM Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel sjmaxq Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,230 Te Ika a Maui >typo. Well, yes, I'm sure, considering that he also found her freckles quite enduring. I guess the less permanent sort of freckles might have been singed off by her billowing ember locks. noho ora mai http://maxqnzs.com/References.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: follow #121626 02/05/04 12:44 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont yah. and elsewhere he wipes off the baby drool with his clock. can't wait to read the next chapter... formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: follow #121627 02/05/04 01:42 AM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh OP Carpal Tunnel OP wwh Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 With a clock on a sock? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: elision of embers #121628 02/05/04 11:38 AM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 M maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 Try googling "billowing flames" but. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: billowing flames #121629 02/05/04 12:52 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont oh, I imagine that's a good one... ok, not so bad: http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/corbis/DGT130/GOV0006.jpg formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: follow #121630 02/05/04 01:27 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 billowing amber locks Yeahbut® it wouldn't rhyme as good, and we all know these songs are just cobbled together for the sake of the rhyme. 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