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Re: Civilian #120869
01/23/04 10:05 PM
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RE: tsuwm's link

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Great, thanks -- here's one from there: Gooseberry lay: to steal clothes from a clothesline.


Re: Civilian #120870
01/24/04 12:19 AM
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those ***** on civvy street. Replace the ***** with whatever suits the emotional tone.

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Re: Civilian #120871
01/24/04 04:17 AM
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How about Joe blow. We say that here sometimes, intead of saying to "some guy" Eg. Some Joe blow parked left his lights on and his battery died.


Re: Civilian #120872
01/25/04 01:37 AM
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I've heard the 'Joe Blow,' too, a while back--years back.

Also, there used to be a term thrown around that wasn't used correctly in modern context--and it was 'plebe,' which correctly referred to someone in the lower ranks of military school. In the incorrect context I'd heard it used, plebe referred to any old citizen. What's interesting is, if you look at the earlier meaning of plebe, a plebe actually was an ordinary citizen, but that use went out of use and evolved into the military use. I have a vague memory, too, of the plebiscite, but I think that has more to do with the group at large or something related to the group at large.

Anyway, plebe wouldn't do for what you want here, but I thought it would be good to mention it just for the general discussion.


Re: did someone say this already? #120873
01/25/04 01:40 AM
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"average Joe"?



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Re: Civilian #120874
01/25/04 03:18 AM
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A first-year cadet at a military academy is a plebe. One of the common people in Ancient Rome was a plebeian. What, oh what, did the American Standard plumbing fixtures company have in mind when they named one of their most popular models of flush toilet the "plebe"?



Re: Civilian #120875
01/26/04 03:18 PM
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We use the word "pleb" (short for plebeian) to mean an ordinary person, often as an ironic self-descriptor when complaining about some favoured class of people getting special treatment. If I understand you correctly, this is not in general use where you are?

The opposite to plebeian is patrician, so I guess the opposite of a pleb is a pat.


Re: Civilian #120876
01/26/04 03:24 PM
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The ancient Greek term was idiot, was it not?


Re: Civilian #120877
01/27/04 12:21 AM
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My two cents...
William Burroughs used the term "citizen" to great effect to denote average, law-abiding folk outside of his characters' demi-monde of thieves, junkies and losers. I always read the word as being somewhat demeaning, as if the "citizens" were less hip than his main characters.
If I remember correctly, Jim Thompson may have used "citizen" in the same manner.
Also, as I write this, the term "gen pop" (for general population) comes to mind as well... don't know if that helps at all.


Re: Civilian #120878
01/27/04 12:50 AM
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Most military people refer to civilians as brown-suiters, as opposed to blue-suiters (AF), green-suiters (Army) and (I assume though I cannot recall having heard the term white-suiters for people in the Navy.

When you work for DoD, as opposed to one of the services, you hear references to purple-suiters, who are military members who are interchangeable so to speak. Where I worked we might have a Navy guy replaced by an AF guy replaced by an Army member. The positions were purple-suiter positions.



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