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#120089 01/15/04 09:25 PM
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I wonder how this is pronounced in UK. I find Shakespeare
spelled it "Hoo". Where did the "w" and the "a" come
from? Is the "a" pronounced in UK?


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To me it's a homophone of 'woe', but I've never had much to do with horses so I'm not necessarily typical.

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I'm pretty much with the Bingster, but if it was a more excited emphatic form, it might start to sound a bit more like [woo]. Concerning the 'a', I can't ever remember hearing the word pronounced with any element of this sound, such as wo~ah.


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[gratuitious 1970s sitcom reference] I now have an indelible image in my head of a dishevelled female figure running through the streets shrieking "Woe, woe and thrice woe."[/gratuitious 1970s sitcom reference]

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I still wonder where the "a" came from.
I have always heard the "h" pronounced.


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The OED gives /wou/ as the pronunciation. Says it's from who also /wou/ meaning stop. Examples of usage: come hither whoa, gee-whoa, hait whoa, whoa back. I've always heard it pronounced /wou/ to rhyme with woe and oh. And who comes from ho. There's definitely some interesting stuff going on here.

There are two Shakespeare citations in the OED entry, but for a different meaning than stopping a horse, i.e., calling attention from a distance: "Whoa hoe, hoe, Father Paige." Merry Wives Windsor V.v.187. "He hallow'd but euen now, Whoa-ho-hoe." Winter Tale III.iii.79.


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Ha!


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Not to be confused with der Bingl.


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Am I going to regret asking?

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Dear Bingley: I certainly hope your valuable contributions
will not be curtailed by affectionate eke naming.


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Am I going to regret asking?

I don't think so. Der Bingel was a German/Yiddish nickname for Bing Crosby.


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> an affectionate form

Definitely :)


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