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Pride #119055
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Pride, or to act proudly.

This question is prompted by the mission statement of a corporation -- something to the effect of "Proudly providing . . .".

My question is, is this a positive statement, given the negative connotations of pride, as in "Pride goeth before a fall", and pride being one of the seven deadly sins, etc..

I'd be most interested in the wisdom of your responses.

Regards,
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Re: Pride #119056
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Re: Pride #119057
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...probably not a problem to proudly provide.


Re: Pride #119058
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While I admire your reasoning, musick, I can't agree with your generalisations for a moment since I think it's a completely unrealistic assessment of what makes humans tick.

I see pride in every single person around me in daily life: when it is an internally focussed agent of creation and personal reward its effects are, I believe, mostly laudable. When, like many of our other attributes, it is allowed to become an end in itself it grows into a pernicious evil.

But I happily defer to your personal experience being true for you ~ 'tis well known that musicians are a special breed! :)


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...an internally focussed agent of creation...

You've sparked my internal force to create a new memory based on your explaination of what exactly® you mean.

Is a 'sense of accomplishment' *truly talking about something else or is it just a less emotionally intense version of 'pride'?


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mmm, I guess it's a close cousin. Wait, izzat a good thang or a baaad thang?!


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Your sounding a bit sheepish, there...

Hey, Phranz...


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baaastard :)


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well mav, what do ewe expect when you ramble on?




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...are a special breed!

- and -

baaastard

- and -

...a close cousin.

Are ewe trying to tell me something?



davego had no idea what he was starting...

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and lambing begins in ernest in a for'tnight, at candlemas! what will happen then, if this is what we are upto now?

(i think i feel a limerick comming on)


Re: Pride #119066
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ernest must be getting worried...



formerly known as etaoin...
Re: Pride #119067
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[stern look at all above post-ers except davego and Anna]
I think Bingley's post in Musick's link (darn you, Musick, I haven't been to Metawords for ages and ages, and now all my New tags will have disappeared...) says it best, dave:Two different words in Indonesian: bangga and sombong.

Bangga is a justifiable pride in one's achievements, sombong is an arrogant conviction that you are more important than anyone else.

I think the corporation was at least aiming for people to think they meant the former.


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