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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Monboddo #117139 12/05/03 09:37 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh OP Carpal Tunnel OP wwh Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 This is in beginning of Martin Chuzzlewit. Dickens seems to be satirizing some of the scientific writing of his time by dragging in names of obscure scientists whose views nobody can be expected to know. From the Internet: In fact, Darwin?s principles were an application of social science concepts to biology. Early thinkers such as Monboddo, Millar, Turgot, Condorcet, Ferguson inspired the discussion of biological evolution by St.-Hilaire, Erasmus Darwin and Lamarck Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Monboddo #117140 12/06/03 07:00 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta B Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta My copy of Martin Chuzzlewit has a note on Lord Monboddo (1714-1799). He wrote a 6 volume work "Of the Origin and Progress of Language" in which he put forward the idea that Man and Orangutan are the same species, only human mental powers had developed more, part of which was the development of language. There seems to be quite a bit about him on the Internet, including his correspondence with Sir William Jones, who first put forward the idea of Indo-European being behind Sanskrit, Latin, Greek, Germanic, Celtic, etc. http://www.aaanet.org/gad/history/020cannon.pdf Since Martin Chuzzlewit was published some 15 or 16 years before Origin of Species, Monboddo was more naturally associated with the idea of humanity and other primates being related. Edit. I've also just found this bio. of Monboddo: http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/burnet_james.htm. It's a shame they don't say where they got it from. I assume this is not Electric Scotland's normal style of writing. Bingley Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,913 Posts229,331 Members9,182 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members Ineffable, ddrinnan, TRIALNERRA, befuddledmind, KILL_YOUR_SUV 9,182 Registered Users Who's Online Now 0 members (), 854 guests, and 1 robot. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 32 A C Bowden 15 ddrinnan 1 Top Posters wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 wofahulicodoc 10,542 tsuwm 10,542 LukeJavan8 9,916 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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