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#117127 - 12/05/03 12:48 PM love or hate?
boronia Offline

Registered: 02/18/02
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Loc: Toronto, Canada
I was chatting with a friend the other night, and we stumbled (yes, perhaps a bit late in life) on the interesting duo of smite and smitten. I think of being smitten as a sweet, romantic feeling; but if god or someone were to smite me, I don't think I'd be too pleased. Just musing aprint.

#117128 - 12/05/03 01:19 PM Re: love or hate?
wwh Offline
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Dear boronia: I share your take on this. What is your take on "stunning" as a compliment on attractive costume?
To me, stunning sounds like violent impact of blunt instrument.

#117129 - 12/05/03 02:34 PM Re: love or hate?
Zed Offline

Registered: 08/27/02
Posts: 2154
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
At our Christmas party last night one of the women wore a crochetted dress, very lovely and very attractive. A couple of the men looked like they had just been "smited" with a blunt instrument.

#117130 - 12/05/03 03:35 PM Re: love or hate?
wwh Offline
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So crocheted costume caused optoecdysiasm viagravation and catatonia.

#117131 - 12/05/03 06:19 PM Re: love or hate?
Faldage Offline
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Bravo, Dr Bill!!

#117132 - 12/05/03 11:01 PM Re: love or hate?
Jackie Offline

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This is interesting, boronia. Smitten doesn't necessarily always refer to good things, but I can't think of any uses of smite that normally would be considered a positive thing. Well, smite a blow for justice, maybe.
From Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: smite
Pronunciation: 'smIt
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): smote /'smOt/; smitĚten /'smi-t&n/; or smote; smitĚing /'smI-ti[ng]/
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English smItan to smear, defile; akin to Old High German bismIzan to defile
Date: 12th century
transitive senses
1 : to strike sharply or heavily especially with the hand or an implement held in the hand
2 a : to kill or severely injure by smiting b : to attack or afflict suddenly and injuriously <smitten by disease>
3 : to cause to strike
4 : to affect as if by striking <children smitten with the fear of hell -- V. L. Parrington>
5 : CAPTIVATE, TAKE <smitten with her beauty>
intransitive senses : to deliver or deal a blow with or as if with the hand or something held

#117133 - 12/06/03 02:56 AM Re: love or hate?
Jenet Offline

Registered: 11/22/03
Posts: 81
The OED dates the love-striking sense (its sense 8) to 1665. I suppose it comes from a jocular use of sense 6: "To infect, imbue, impress, strike suddenly or strongly with some feeling or sentiment. Chiefly in pa. pple. ME.", the quotation for which is still negative: "Wit strang dred he smiton was."

#117134 - 12/06/03 02:59 AM smutty smooching
Jenet Offline

Registered: 11/22/03
Posts: 81
Oh, I forget to mention something I noticed in passing:

Smooch (smûtS), v. Latterly U.S. 1631. [Cf. SMUTCH v.] trans. To sully, dirty.

#117135 - 12/06/03 07:17 AM Re: smutty smooching
consuelo Offline
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Ahhhhhhhh, to be smitten and smooching is stunning and y'all know exactly what I'm talking about.

#117136 - 12/06/03 08:53 AM Re: love or hate?
wwh Offline
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Posts: 13858
Dear Jenet: And a smith uses gentle taps as well as mighty blows.


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