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Re: "Excuse my French"? #116141
11/21/03 11:51 AM
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excuse my Latin

- which resonates with byb's response - I, also, had always taken the same take (if you see what I mean!)


And nice to see you back again, rav!

Re: "Excuse my French"? #116142
11/24/03 11:45 PM
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Interesting that most people say "excuse my French" after using "Anglo-Saxon" words. A hold over from when vulger language and swear words came from the Anglo-saxon lower class not the Normon/FRench upper class.


Re: "Excuse my French"? #116143
11/25/03 10:05 PM
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Oh, I doubt the expression is that old. You probably only need to go back to the Napoleonic Wars (or any other time - or any time - when the English have decided to hold the French up as an example of all that is execrable ...)


Re: "Excuse my French"? #116144
11/26/03 12:07 AM
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But most of the curse-words are that old.


Re: "Excuse my French"? #116145
11/30/03 03:30 PM
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But most of the curse-words are that old.

But are most curse-words really of Anglo-Saxon origin? I'm only asking because I'm too lazy to look all of them up in my book of Etymology.



Re: "Excuse my French"? #116146
11/30/03 06:57 PM
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You probably only need to go back to the Napoleonic Wars (or any other time - or any time - when the English have decided to hold the French up as an example of all that is execrable ...)

Then how you'll explain that expression with 'Latin'? I may also add that we call it "kitchen Latin" or "backyard Latin" - these are strict translations from Polish, but I also saw such English expression: "dog Latin". Well, it can't be SO old



Re: "Excuse my French"? #116147
12/01/03 03:52 PM
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Hi Giftie, and all,

I'm currently skimming through The English: A Protrait of a People, by Jeremy Paxman, and discovered some of the many negative terms associated with 'French' (leave, kisses, drive [in cricket], and so on), but, beautifully, some French retaliation as well. Most delicious is les Anglais ont débarqué for menstruation. Which, with all that I've been smoking, gives rise to a

[fantasia]

Of French origin, but affecting a neatly Puritan outlook, young Paul Revere is in an agony of anxiety, fearful that his dreadful secret will come out and he will be ostracised, or worse, by his community.

Then, his mistress tells him the good news, and already driven half-crazy by fear, he snaps, and announces his delight to the world, running through the streets of Lexington and Concord, ringing out the wild bells and screaming his ecstasy - except he does it in his adopted language, English, translating it literally and unwittingly kick-starting the United States of America.

[/fantasia]

cheer

the sunshine warrior


Bravo #116148
12/01/03 04:29 PM
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Either you have the most creative mind on earth, or I need to start smoking what you're smoking. Perhaps bother are true. Well done at any rate.


Re: "Excuse my French"? #116149
12/01/03 04:51 PM
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Ok--now I get it. Funny! les Anglais ont débarqué = The British have landed.



My Ron Obvious moment #116150
12/01/03 05:42 PM
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Just to top and tail it - I presume the phrase arose because of the British Redcoats....


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