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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 2 1 2 #116049 - 11/20/03 01:07 PM Re: A question of prescriptive grammar   Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 36 dellfarmer newbie dellfarmer   newbie Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 36 Vermont (US) In reply to: So what does a predescriptivist do? Once the farmer takes his wife, and the wife takes the cheese, I believe that the 'predescriptivist', like the cheese, stands alone. I ain't got no clue on the y'all's question, though. Ron. Ron. #116050 - 11/20/03 05:02 PM Re: A question of prescriptive grammar   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky I ain't got no clue on the y'all's question, though. That's 'cause you're a Yankee, Ron. As I sternly lectured a friend just this morning, "y'all's" is NOT the same thing as "your-all's". Not. at. all. These distinctions are an acquired art form, my dear. #116051 - 11/26/03 12:32 AM Re: A question of prescriptive grammar   Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,154 Zed Pooh-Bah Zed   Pooh-Bah Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,154 British Columbia, Canada y'all's crazy as bed bugs. (but it makes me feel at home ) #116052 - 11/26/03 11:26 AM Re: A question of prescriptive grammar   Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 dxb Pooh-Bah dxb   Pooh-Bah Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK I know a pub called "The Four Alls", but I doubt if there's any connection - aside from the beer that is. #116053 - 11/26/03 12:53 PM Re: A question of prescriptive grammar   Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel WhitmanO'Neill   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... A friend of mine from Richmond, Virginia, used to say, "How y'all doin'?" whenever he greeted me. Meaning me, alone. #116054 - 11/26/03 01:47 PM Re: How y'all doin'   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 I believe: A) You're going to find this usage in stock phrases irregardless of whether or not one or more people are involved or not. 2) Direct questioning of speakers is not the most accurate way to record usage, as I am sure anyone who has been involved in collecting dialect information can attest. Þ) Someone is going to misunderstand my intent in 2) #116055 - 11/26/03 02:07 PM Re: How y'all doin'   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Jackie Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky misunderstand my intent in 2 [waving hand in the air e] Did you mean because if you ask directly, that focuses the person's attention, and thus is likely to affect the output? #116056 - 11/26/03 02:21 PM Re: How y'all doin'   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Yeah, Jackie. That's pretty much it. A classic example might be when Bill and Hill gave Skaneateles, NY its fifteen minutes a few years ago and the news guys asked the mayor how to pronounce the name of the town. He distinctly said, "Skay nee atlas," and then proceded to pronounce it "Skinny Atlas," when he was just saying it later on. Page 2 of 2 1 2 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. (have been consolidated into a single forum above) ------   Words from medicine   Beheading words   Meta-words   Words from classical mythology   Animal Safari   Words with unusual etymologies   Eponyms or words derived from people's names.   Loanwords from German   English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode View Profile Send Private Message View Homepage Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message View Homepage Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message View Homepage Follow User Show Forum Posts Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,880 Posts224,654 Members9,045 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members DavidOrigami, RichEngle, Stosh2010, CarolWilliamson, Farscape07 9045 Registered Users Who's Online Now 0 registered members (), 97 guests, and 3 spiders. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 48 A C Bowden 27 LukeJavan8 11 may2point0 2 Top Posters(All Time) wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 tsuwm 10,538 LukeJavan8 9,120 wofahulicodoc 7,879 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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