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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 2 1 2 Re: A question of prescriptive grammar #116049 11/20/03 01:07 PM 11/20/03 01:07 PM Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 36 Vermont (US) D dellfarmer newbie dellfarmer   newbie D Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 36 Vermont (US) In reply to: So what does a predescriptivist do? Once the farmer takes his wife, and the wife takes the cheese, I believe that the 'predescriptivist', like the cheese, stands alone. I ain't got no clue on the y'all's question, though. Ron. Ron. Re: A question of prescriptive grammar #116050 11/20/03 05:02 PM 11/20/03 05:02 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky I ain't got no clue on the y'all's question, though. That's 'cause you're a Yankee, Ron. As I sternly lectured a friend just this morning, "y'all's" is NOT the same thing as "your-all's". Not. at. all. These distinctions are an acquired art form, my dear. Re: A question of prescriptive grammar #116051 11/26/03 12:32 AM 11/26/03 12:32 AM Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,154 British Columbia, Canada Z Zed Pooh-Bah Zed   Pooh-Bah Z Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,154 British Columbia, Canada y'all's crazy as bed bugs. (but it makes me feel at home ) Re: A question of prescriptive grammar #116052 11/26/03 11:26 AM 11/26/03 11:26 AM Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK D dxb Pooh-Bah dxb   Pooh-Bah D Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK I know a pub called "The Four Alls", but I doubt if there's any connection - aside from the beer that is. Re: A question of prescriptive grammar #116053 11/26/03 12:53 PM 11/26/03 12:53 PM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel WhitmanO'Neill   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... A friend of mine from Richmond, Virginia, used to say, "How y'all doin'?" whenever he greeted me. Meaning me, alone. Re: How y'all doin' #116054 11/26/03 01:47 PM 11/26/03 01:47 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage OP Carpal Tunnel Faldage   OP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 I believe: A) You're going to find this usage in stock phrases irregardless of whether or not one or more people are involved or not. 2) Direct questioning of speakers is not the most accurate way to record usage, as I am sure anyone who has been involved in collecting dialect information can attest. Þ) Someone is going to misunderstand my intent in 2) Re: How y'all doin' #116055 11/26/03 02:07 PM 11/26/03 02:07 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky misunderstand my intent in 2 [waving hand in the air e] Did you mean because if you ask directly, that focuses the person's attention, and thus is likely to affect the output? Re: How y'all doin' #116056 11/26/03 02:21 PM 11/26/03 02:21 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage OP Carpal Tunnel Faldage   OP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Yeah, Jackie. That's pretty much it. A classic example might be when Bill and Hill gave Skaneateles, NY its fifteen minutes a few years ago and the news guys asked the mayor how to pronounce the name of the town. He distinctly said, "Skay nee atlas," and then proceded to pronounce it "Skinny Atlas," when he was just saying it later on. Page 2 of 2 1 2 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. 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