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Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 Topic Options #115868 - 11/14/03 11:17 AM Re: Begging the question shanks old hand Registered: 03/16/00 Posts: 1004 Loc: London, UK Now then, now then, now then! This is not a philosophy discussion. Go to www.factsforum.org if you want that sort of fun. I'll see you there! Also, my 'dialogue' was illustrative of a form of argument, and a fallacy associated with it. I could (almost) just as easily have turned it on its head and made the evolution-champion guilty of assuming the antecedent. cheer the sunshine warrior Top #115869 - 11/14/03 11:32 AM Re: Begging the question Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13803 Or either you could have pointed out that JW had reduced his argument to the absurd. I like that assuming the antecedent. I can live with that as a name for the fallacy. I'll have to check on the relative dates of the various definitions of beg. The only time I've heard the word question used in this sense is in the phrase call the question in legislative debate. Top #115870 - 11/14/03 11:43 AM Re: Begging the question shanks old hand Registered: 03/16/00 Posts: 1004 Loc: London, UK Or, indeed, that his argument had become tautologous (or circular) and hence wasn't an argument at all. (Though, of course, according to Ayer and all them thar Logical Positivists, a tautology was something positively to rejoice at, with mathematics and logic giving the dear boys multiples. Shows how fashions in philosophy change, eh?) cheer the sunshine warrior Top #115871 - 11/19/03 04:53 PM Re: Begging the question Capfka Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/28/02 Posts: 1624 Loc: Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok This is a yart, although I must admit that the discussion this time around has been intelligent and to the point. Faldo and Shanks have excelled themselves. Isn't it time, then, that the thread wandered off into recipe swapping or something? I'd hate to see a precedent set - sticking to the point - but I don't think that I'm begging the question; merely citing Board history in support of my assertion! Top Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 Previous Topic Index Next Topic Preview Hop to: General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. (have been consolidated into a single forum above) ------   Words from medicine   Beheading words   Meta-words   Words from classical mythology   Animal Safari   Words with unusual etymologies   Eponyms or words derived from people's names.   Loanwords from German   English as a global language Moderator:  Jackie  Print Topic Switch to Threaded Mode View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts Forum Stats 8947 Members 16 Forums 13866 Topics 222213 Posts Max Online: 3341 @ 12/09/11 02:15 PM Newest Members michor, Daksh1, geoffhargreaves, Guadalupe, may2point0 8947 Registered Users Who's Online 0 registered (), 49 Guests and 5 Spiders online. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters (30 Days) wofahulicodoc 65 LukeJavan8 53 may2point0 19 Tromboniator 3 geoffhargreaves 1 jheem 1 Top Posters wwh 13858 Faldage 13803 Jackie 11613 tsuwm 10538 LukeJavan8 8438 Buffalo Shrdlu 7210 wofahulicodoc 6799 AnnaStrophic 6511 Wordwind 6296 of troy 5400

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