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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 2 1 2 #115868 - 11/14/03 04:17 PM Re: Begging the question   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,004 shanks old hand shanks   old hand Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,004 London, UK Now then, now then, now then! This is not a philosophy discussion. Go to www.factsforum.org if you want that sort of fun. I'll see you there! Also, my 'dialogue' was illustrative of a form of argument, and a fallacy associated with it. I could (almost) just as easily have turned it on its head and made the evolution-champion guilty of assuming the antecedent. cheer the sunshine warrior #115869 - 11/14/03 04:32 PM Re: Begging the question   Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Or either you could have pointed out that JW had reduced his argument to the absurd. I like that assuming the antecedent. I can live with that as a name for the fallacy. I'll have to check on the relative dates of the various definitions of beg. The only time I've heard the word question used in this sense is in the phrase call the question in legislative debate. #115870 - 11/14/03 04:43 PM Re: Begging the question   Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,004 shanks old hand shanks   old hand Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,004 London, UK Or, indeed, that his argument had become tautologous (or circular) and hence wasn't an argument at all. (Though, of course, according to Ayer and all them thar Logical Positivists, a tautology was something positively to rejoice at, with mathematics and logic giving the dear boys multiples. Shows how fashions in philosophy change, eh?) cheer the sunshine warrior #115871 - 11/19/03 09:53 PM Re: Begging the question   Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Capfka Pooh-Bah Capfka   Pooh-Bah Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,624 Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok This is a yart, although I must admit that the discussion this time around has been intelligent and to the point. Faldo and Shanks have excelled themselves. Isn't it time, then, that the thread wandered off into recipe swapping or something? I'd hate to see a precedent set - sticking to the point - but I don't think that I'm begging the question; merely citing Board history in support of my assertion! Page 2 of 2 1 2 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. (have been consolidated into a single forum above) ------   Words from medicine   Beheading words   Meta-words   Words from classical mythology   Animal Safari   Words with unusual etymologies   Eponyms or words derived from people's names.   Loanwords from German   English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode View Profile Send Private Message View Homepage Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message View Homepage Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message View Homepage Follow User Show Forum Posts View Profile Send Private Message Follow User Show Forum Posts Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,880 Posts224,653 Members9,045 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members DavidOrigami, RichEngle, Stosh2010, CarolWilliamson, Farscape07 9045 Registered Users Who's Online Now 0 registered members (), 90 guests, and 2 spiders. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 51 A C Bowden 28 LukeJavan8 11 may2point0 1 Top Posters(All Time) wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 tsuwm 10,538 LukeJavan8 9,120 wofahulicodoc 7,879 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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