#115745 - 11/12/03 02:47 PM
Re: "have got"?
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to my mind...
have got an idea - probably implies obtaining help from outside apart from one's own effort
have an idea - implies pure creativity. An idea that is truly self inspired.
Any takers?
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#115747 - 11/12/03 06:16 PM
Re: have too got class
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 08/27/02
Posts: 2154
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
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I may be lower but I have got class.
Seriously ,tho' we do use have to modify the tense of other verbs (I have been using it), why not this one?
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#115748 - 11/13/03 12:50 AM
Re: "have got"?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 04/09/00
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Loc: Jakarta
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'Have got' always indicates possession, but 'have' need not do so. For example: She's got a bath (not just a shower) v. She has a bath (every morning).
Bingley
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#115749 - 11/13/03 07:39 AM
Re: "have got"?
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Registered: 10/13/03
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Loc: Vermont (US)
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I agree with Bingly here. "Have got" should imply possession or receipt. People often say, for example, "I've got a cold," but, grammatically speaking, they'd be more correct to say "I have a cold."
In a slightly different context, one might say, for example, "I was with my ailing nephew, and now I've gotten a cold." Note, however that one would use "gotten" here, instead of got.
Similarly, I think, one might say, "I got it in the mail," to express receipt of a letter; but one could say, "I have gotten it in the mail," to imply that the letter is now in possession of the lettercarrier.
Occasionally, I think, it's fairly common usage to use have got for emphasis, as in: "You have GOT to be kidding!"
The 'have got' construction has been around forever. I remember the old TV program I've Got A Secret. When we were learning our grammar, way back then, I called this to my teacher's attention and, though she was a pretty strict grammarian herself, she admitted that this had escaped her notice, gave me extra points for my vigilance.
Interestingly enough, the show was sponsored by a cigarette company (yes, I'm that old), whose catch-phrase was "Winston tastes good, like a cigarette should". This, of course, should be: ...as a cigarette should.
But I digress.
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#115751 - 11/13/03 10:36 AM
Re: "have got"?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 1692
Loc: UK
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As the doughty sunshine warrior (??) says, we were taught at school that ‘got’ used in this sense was redundant and not proper usage. “He told me to get it, so I got it” was just about acceptable, but rather an ugly construction and it was safest to avoid ‘got’ altogether. It is, nevertheless, frequently used.
‘Gotten’ is strictly US usage and I don’t think I have heard it used here in the UK other than in fun.
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#115753 - 11/13/03 12:14 PM
Re: "have got"?
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Is no one other than me (sorry shanks, ..myself  ) getting a strong feeling of 'procure' with 'have got'?
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