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#115688 11/13/03 06:09 PM
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ASp, see the link added above.


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Dear tsuwm: thanks for turning a mediocre post of mine into something interesting.


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From my favorite poet, Omar Khayyam, a small copy of whose Rubaiyat I carry everywhere:

  The Worldly Hope men set their hearts upon
Turns ashes, or it prospers; and anon,
Like snow upon the desert's dusty face,
Lighting a little hour or two - is gone.


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Thanks for that FF. I have always wondered how much of the charm of those verses was in the original, and how much
was added by the translator.


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I had several Persian friends back in college. They told me that they really liked the English translations of Fitzgerald, but that even those only captured about 70% of the essence. My own experience at translation has been limited to high school latin and undergraduate german, but I've read translations of Chinese poems, among others. Despite my limited experience, I think 70% (to the extent that percentages are an appropriate metaphor) is extremely good.

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The cliché of clichés is "much is lost in translation".
And good poetry is inherently more fragile than prose.
Thanks for your comments. I didn't even know what "Rubaiyat" meant until about a year ago. But ever since I found a forgotten copy of it in my mother's desk, I have enjoyed it.


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Rubaiyat

it doesn't mean "big red boat"?

<trying to remain anon...>



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