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#114856 11/02/03 07:23 AM
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Interesting to think about the beginning of the year being a fallow, cold time...

yeah, nothing at all like beginning the year in January.



Damn straight! It's nothing like starting the year in the baking sunshine of January.


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Oh tsuwm, you've made my day. I haven't laughed so hard in a long time.


From the article...

Other churches and Christian families explore different alternatives to Halloween. Some have pumpkin parties where they carve letters instead of ghoulish faces, so the pumpkins spell out Bible verses.

Others go from door to door (dressed unsatanically, of course), but instead of demanding sweets with menaces give out leaflets about Jesus.


Yipeee!!!







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You just didn't understand the point I was trying to make. It is interesting that the year should begin in the coldest, darkest time of year.

The Japanese begin their year in the spring, which makes a lot more sense to me.


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> It is interesting that the year should begin in the coldest, darkest time of year.

It doesn't.




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WW, the earth is shaped like a pumpkin...



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>You just didn't understand the point I was trying to make. It is interesting that the year should begin in the coldest, darkest time of year.

<sigh> but, of course, I did -- here on the frozen tundra, January 20 is on average the coldest day of the coldest month, and the darkest day (or at least the longest night) is December 21/22. (yes, the cold lags the dark by about a month.)

the year *does begin in the coldest, darkest time of year.
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I don't understand why everybody's gone and gotten all so technical on me. I was just thinking in general terms. Seems the Japanese have it better. The cherry blossoms bloom and it's the beginning of the year. That makes wonderful sense to me--and all this solstice, darkest, coldest calculating kind of ways of figuring out beginnings seems bleak somehow.

I know the earth's shaped like a pumpkin, et', and a mishapen pumpkin at that. And I realize those people on the other end have their consciousness of seasons opposite to those of us who live at my own end. If this board teaches one nothing else, it is people at the other end like to rub it in that they're at the top of the world. I suppose they are at least during winter when they run around in their t-shirts and shorts. This whole discussion is Samhain else, ain't it.


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Samhain else





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>Sowin else? I don't get it.


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I don't understand why everybody's gone and gotten all so technical on me.

I knew what you meant, WW, and I agree with you.

This year, I must admit that we have had such a marvellous late summer and autumn that the tree colours are quite amazing (no need to go to New England to leaf-peep) and if the year ended at Halloween then it would at least have gone out in a blaze of glory. Thing is it looks like carrying on that way for a while into the Celtic new year.

We need lots of rain this winter.


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