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#113100 - 10/24/03 02:23 PM Re: connotation v. denotation
birdfeed Offline

Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 180
Loc: Atlanta, GA
"Wordwind went to the shop. The connotation of that is that she needed to buy some groceries."

That sounds more like implication than connotation to me.

#113101 - 10/24/03 07:12 PM Re: connotation v. denotation
Zed Offline

Registered: 08/27/02
Posts: 2154
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
Nero Wolfe once burned a dictionary because it stated that imply and infer were synonyms.

and WW I'm definitely female and often feminine but not always ladylike.[batting eyelashes -e]

#113102 - 10/26/03 03:34 AM Re: connotation v. denotation
paulb Offline

Registered: 03/17/00
Posts: 460
Loc: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
and here's a late entry for this thread from a book I'm currently reading, Bernard Dick's 'Anatomy of film':

denotation and connotation are not distinct in film. A movie denotes and connotes at the same time. When Isak Borg raises a glass of wine in Bergman's 'Wild strawberries', he is Isak Borg who at that moment is having lunch with his daughter-in-law and some young hitchhikers; he is also Isak Borg the priest figure, officiating at a communion service and elevating not a wineglass but a chalice

[Discuss! -- and apologies if the film (made in Sweden in 1957) is not familiar to some AWADers]

#113103 - 10/26/03 05:49 AM Re: connotation v. denotation
Wordwind Offline
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...and symbols may operate as both denotations and connotations at the same moment.

It has been over 30 years since I saw "Wild Strawberries"--and it is now just a wash of black and white images. A group of people on a hillside--eating strawberries--and was that the one in which Death makes an appearance? I need to refresh my memory because the story has virtually faded away. More of "Cries and Whispers" has stayed with me over the years, come to think of it...

#113104 - 10/26/03 10:17 PM Take your pick, Dub Dub
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#113105 - 10/27/03 06:01 AM Re: connotation v. denotation
Faldage Offline
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denotation and connotation are not distinct in film. A movie denotes and connotes at the same time.

Uh-huh. And this somehow makes film different from anything else?

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