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#113029 10/02/03 01:45 PM
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Here's a URL to a well worth browsing list of dialect words. I was looking for "mumchance". The URL above covers only K through O, but try editing the "3" and that might take you to other parts of the alphabet.
http://shadowgwen.freeyellow.com/definitions3.html
I was able to get other parts of alphabet by changing the "3" in the URL to another number.

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Thanks Bill. Nice to see you on the Board again, too!


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Thank you, Dr. Bill, not only for the link but for the information. I have often found myself stuck on a particular site page, with no idea of how to move forward or back. It never would have occurred to me to change something in the address, but...it works! For your site, anyway.
And...just look at some of the amazing things it has:
KNOCKKNOBBLER Person who caught dogs
I love that word!
KISSER Person who made cuishes/cuisses [plate armour which protected the thigh] and high armour
LAETARE 4th Sunday in Lent
Is this Latin?
LANARY Wool store
From...lanolin?
LEDERER Leathermaker
I wonder if Richard knows?;-)
LONG SONG SELLER Person who sold popular songsheets on yard-long papers in the street
LOVE DAYS Days appointed in medieval times for the clergy to arbitrate and settle disputes, as they were supposedly `amicable' days




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In reply to:

LAETARE 4th Sunday in Lent Is this Latin?
LANARY Wool store From...lanolin?


Yep, laetare is Latin for Rejoice!. First word of a psalm or reading for that day perhaps?

Lanary and lanolin have a common etymon, Latin lana = wool

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Cool--thanks!


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New (or long-forgotten) word for me, Bingley, thanks!


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etymon

tha's me een Jamaica, mon!



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Ooh, ooh--does that mean we can call you Etty??


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Some more:
PAIL To beat, Midlands
PAINTER'S PARALYSIS Lead poisoning, also called drop wrist.
PEELER Policeman, from Sir Robert Peel, Police force founder
PESSONER Fishmonger
From French, I'll bet.
PETTIFOGGER Low class lawyer
Ah, yes, my old retainer: Larsen E. Pettifogger...
PIN Half a firkin
Oh, well...of course.
PISTOR Baker
This, I don't get at all.
RYAL Gold coin, Rose Noble
I've heard of the Spanish réal, but not Rose Noble.
SCHRIMPSCHONGER Carver of bone, ivory or wood
Now, this is close to scrimshaw, isn't it?
SLUBBER Operator of a machine which prepared cotton for spinning
SLUBBER DOFFER Person who removed bobbins from spindles in a mill



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call you Etty

if you really want to...



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Jackie,

Thanks for posting some lists from Bill's site here. Great fun reading through them without having to go searching the site, big laze that I am.


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RYAL Gold coin, Rose Noble I've heard of the Spanish réal, but not Rose Noble.

the rose noble-- a noble was a british gold coin worth 20£s, it was embossed with an image of a rose.

There is the tudor rose, but before that, the house of york and lancaster had 'the war of the roses'-roses were often used as royal emblems. so it's not odd that money was too. (it was in use in the 14 century--till i don't know when)


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Neat--thanks!


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call you Etty

if you really want to...

Well, Etty, if you want to, you can call her Bal.


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you can call her Bal
Awwright, what the...?


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From a Paul Simon song.


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FANCY MAN Pimp
FARANDMAN Stranger or traveller, travelling merchant
This one's new to me.
FARRIER Non-Commissioned officer responsible for shoeing of horses in a cavalry regiment
I never knew of the military connection.
FEAR-NOTHING MAKER Weaver of special thick woollen cloth known as fear-nought, used for protective clothing, and for the lining of portholes or doors of powder magazines on ships
A pure grin, for the word AND the def.!
FERRETER Dealer or manufacturer of ferret [silk tape]
Silk tape is ferret?? For that matter, what is silk tape?
FITZ Son of...
FLEET MARRIAGES Quiet, clandestine marriages which were taken by clergymen who were in the Fleet Prison, London, for a fee. Secret weddings to escape the attention of relatives, held from about 1613 until 1753 when they were banned by an act of Parliament
Fascinating!
FRIZOGGLED Freezing cold, Midlands
GREAVE/GRIEVE Bailiff, foreman, sheriff

HEADSMAN Executioner
HEADSWOMAN Midwife
What a difference a gender makes!
HOCKTIDE Part of Easter festivities from medieval England. The second Monday and Tuesday after Easter Sunday were set aside, on Monday, the women capturing men and releasing them on payment of a fine, and on Tuesday, the men capturing women. Fines were donated to the church. Possibly recalled victory over the Danes. Hence to `hock off' or pawn something.
INFEFTMENT A man was infeft when put into possession of heritable property
tsuwm, did you know this one?




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> FANCY MAN Pimp

That definition seems a little harsh. I'm sure that my aunts would have said things like, "she's got a fancy man" meaning someone who dressed or behaved as if they occupied a higher station in life - a sort of spiv, a man in a suit when few around would wear them

See Michael Qunion for a definition of "spiv": http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-spi3.htm


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"That definition seems a little harsh. I'm sure that my aunts would have said things like, "she's got a fancy
man" meaning someone who dressed or behaved as if they occupied a higher station in life - a sort of
spiv, a man in a suit when few around would wear them"

I always understood "fancy man" to mean merely "lover".


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FARANDMAN Stranger or traveller, travelling merchant This one's new to me.

this one keeps kicking up dust in my mind... i can't quite place it.. there is a similar words (scot's i think,) pharoman, which was a term used to describe gypsies, and others who came from any where south and east of the Rhine..

but there is an other word-- closer to farand(man)but not pharoman that also means 'traveller, travelling merchant'--or i think there is... not a common word, and a UK english one, not a US term..

gypsy of course, is from egyptian, and pharoman was 'some one from the land of the pharohs'or more generally, some one from far away with exotic things to trade. (even if really just from italy!)



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FARANDMAN Stranger or traveller, travelling merchant This one's new to me.

Sounds like it's connected to OE faran, to go on a journey, cognate with German fahren, to go.



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>INFEFTMENT A man was infeft when put into possession of heritable property tsuwm, did you know this one?

in one of my "potential wwftd" files I have enfeofment/infeofment; thus, enfeoff/infeoff. these forms all turn up via OneLook, but not infeft or infeftment; I trust that OED would resolve the spelling issue(s).


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enfeoff/infeoff Hmm--you reckon these might have developed from, say, to be "in fief"(dom)? Related in some way, I mean?


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Ooh, ooh--does that mean we can call you Etty??


Sure, dlu so at your own risk.



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welcome back, TEd.



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Indeed. I have missed you, my good and faithful...friend.
It took me a second, on your ref. , and I L'dIU just to be sure:
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Re: Etaoin shrdlu

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It's the frequency distribution of the letters in English words. See Sherlock Holmes in "The Dancing Men". It may be noted that there are other lists with different arrangements.

http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=wordplay&Number=9339


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