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#113039 10/04/03 01:25 PM
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Jackie,

Thanks for posting some lists from Bill's site here. Great fun reading through them without having to go searching the site, big laze that I am.


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RYAL Gold coin, Rose Noble I've heard of the Spanish réal, but not Rose Noble.

the rose noble-- a noble was a british gold coin worth 20£s, it was embossed with an image of a rose.

There is the tudor rose, but before that, the house of york and lancaster had 'the war of the roses'-roses were often used as royal emblems. so it's not odd that money was too. (it was in use in the 14 century--till i don't know when)


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Neat--thanks!


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call you Etty

if you really want to...

Well, Etty, if you want to, you can call her Bal.


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you can call her Bal
Awwright, what the...?


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From a Paul Simon song.


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FANCY MAN Pimp
FARANDMAN Stranger or traveller, travelling merchant
This one's new to me.
FARRIER Non-Commissioned officer responsible for shoeing of horses in a cavalry regiment
I never knew of the military connection.
FEAR-NOTHING MAKER Weaver of special thick woollen cloth known as fear-nought, used for protective clothing, and for the lining of portholes or doors of powder magazines on ships
A pure grin, for the word AND the def.!
FERRETER Dealer or manufacturer of ferret [silk tape]
Silk tape is ferret?? For that matter, what is silk tape?
FITZ Son of...
FLEET MARRIAGES Quiet, clandestine marriages which were taken by clergymen who were in the Fleet Prison, London, for a fee. Secret weddings to escape the attention of relatives, held from about 1613 until 1753 when they were banned by an act of Parliament
Fascinating!
FRIZOGGLED Freezing cold, Midlands
GREAVE/GRIEVE Bailiff, foreman, sheriff

HEADSMAN Executioner
HEADSWOMAN Midwife
What a difference a gender makes!
HOCKTIDE Part of Easter festivities from medieval England. The second Monday and Tuesday after Easter Sunday were set aside, on Monday, the women capturing men and releasing them on payment of a fine, and on Tuesday, the men capturing women. Fines were donated to the church. Possibly recalled victory over the Danes. Hence to `hock off' or pawn something.
INFEFTMENT A man was infeft when put into possession of heritable property
tsuwm, did you know this one?




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> FANCY MAN Pimp

That definition seems a little harsh. I'm sure that my aunts would have said things like, "she's got a fancy man" meaning someone who dressed or behaved as if they occupied a higher station in life - a sort of spiv, a man in a suit when few around would wear them

See Michael Qunion for a definition of "spiv": http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-spi3.htm


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"That definition seems a little harsh. I'm sure that my aunts would have said things like, "she's got a fancy
man" meaning someone who dressed or behaved as if they occupied a higher station in life - a sort of
spiv, a man in a suit when few around would wear them"

I always understood "fancy man" to mean merely "lover".


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FARANDMAN Stranger or traveller, travelling merchant This one's new to me.

this one keeps kicking up dust in my mind... i can't quite place it.. there is a similar words (scot's i think,) pharoman, which was a term used to describe gypsies, and others who came from any where south and east of the Rhine..

but there is an other word-- closer to farand(man)but not pharoman that also means 'traveller, travelling merchant'--or i think there is... not a common word, and a UK english one, not a US term..

gypsy of course, is from egyptian, and pharoman was 'some one from the land of the pharohs'or more generally, some one from far away with exotic things to trade. (even if really just from italy!)



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