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#111881 02/17/04 02:23 PM
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I learned "res ipsa loquitur" in course on legal medicine.
A post op patient has persistent abdominal pain. A flat plate (x-ray) of the abdomen shows a surgical instrument in his abdomen. Res ipsa loquitur - he is the victim of medical
malpractice.The surgeon has no defense.

Of course I also heard Perry Mason say it a couple times.


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The first time I heard res ipsa loquitur was on NYPD Blue when the lovely assistant DA and future wife of the gruntly cop was excoriating said gruntly cop for his miserable performance on the witness stand. She said, "I'd say res ipsa loquitur, if I thought you knew what it meant." His barely printable response was, "Ipsa this, you prissy b***h."


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Dear Faldage: But she married him, you say, which says a
lot about her.


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It was a classic examplle of a cute meet, was it not?



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I was inspired to create a 'Famous First Words' category by that exchange. Unfortunately, I don't have any other entries.

The cop, Sipowitz, had many problems. Together they worked most of them out, as I remember.


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Res ipsa loquitur - he is the victim of medical malpractice.The surgeon has no defense.

As Sparteye, our lawyer, pointed out! OK, now fess up, Dr Bill... you too are now among the liver-choppers [running screaming for cover while hoping your sense of humor is intact]


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Dear AS: I challenge you to demonstrate that I hacked anybody's hepar.


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Dear AS: You are quick to condemn, slow to retract.


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Saprteye: In the law, res ipsa loquitur is a negligence doctrine. It imposes liability in the absence of the usual elements of breach and causation when the circumstances pose a situation in which negligence must have occurred. Under the doctrine of res ipsa loquitur, an inference of negligence can arise when the plaintiff's injury (1) ordinarily would not have occurred in the absence of negligence, (2) was caused by an agency or instrumentality within the exclusive control of the defendant, and (3) was not due to any voluntary action or contribution of the plaintiff. An example of a res ipsa situation is when the wrong limb is amputated during surgery. In such a case, with the patient under general anesthesia, the removal of the wrong limb would not occur in the absence of negligence, the instrumentality of the harm was within the exclusive control of the defendant physician, and the plaintiff did not contribute to the mistake.


Dr Bill: I learned "res ipsa loquitur" in course on legal medicine.
A post op patient has persistent abdominal pain. A flat plate (x-ray) of the abdomen shows a surgical instrument in his abdomen. Res ipsa loquitur - he is the victim of medical
malpractice.The surgeon has no defense.

Of course I also heard Perry Mason say it a couple times.


Res ipsa loquitur (or is that QED?)


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Dear Faldage: I took legal medicine before Sparteye was
born, I believe. I purposely omitted giving the legal
part of it, thinking a less limited application would be
more appropriate. I took nothing from Sparteye, I merely
added an additional example. And I also think the use of
acronyms, special symbols, and jargon known only to the
first members STINKS. If this be treason, make the most of
it.


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