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#111049 08/27/03 07:19 PM
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AHD4 gives 12a. Containing a large amount of shortening; flaky: a short pie crust.

But it still doesn't answer the question. Just makes it triangular instead of circular.


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-like short bread--(or bisquits) the shortnin bread that is loved is hot and fast-- but the 'bread' is sex!
good heavens!

As to triangular - that would be a popover not a pie.
Hmmm given part one of this post even popover becomes a double entendre.

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Next thang you gonna tell us rhubarb pie is something naisty.


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Re;secondly, is shortening still a gerund even though it's a tangible thing (aren't most gerunds simply descriptions of verbs, eg swimming, running, eating, etc?)?

isn't a gerund a verb that describes a continueal state of being?--in the sample fishing-- No fishing --is a gerund-- no fishing today, or tomorrow, or yesterday..no fishing ever (a continual state) but I went fishing today, fishing in that sentence is not a gerund. (not sure what form of a verb it is!)
it seems there are several cooking-related terms that follow this unusual gerund format, such as seasoning, leavening, and... um, i'm sure there are more, but i can't think of any. i mean, i do understand that (for example) seasoning is a gerund of the infinitive 'to season', but it's more than simply the description of the process; it's an actual substance. would that be like a concrete gerund or something?

seasoning-- as in She has a very deft hand at seasoning, her soup is always flavorful, and never to salty. is a gerund,(cause there seasoning always means 'adding a flavor to a food') but in [I love McCormacks poultry seasoning, i think its great! its a noun..

and yes food terms seem to be filled with them.. whipping, (whipping the whipping cream) pickling (Pickling with pickling salt)Icing or frosting (icing/frosting the cake with vanilla icing/frosting) and many more i am sure...
(glacing might be one, and sugaring, too,) grating (cheese)... enough!


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Nope, rhubarb pie is too nice-ty b naisty


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Or is there something in our collective un-Gestalt Zeitgeist that's turning new threads into Food threads? Helen, what have you put in the software???




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These are food related words, AsP dear, not recipes for pickling, or frostings!

and goodness knows english has so many food words --partly, but not entirely because the 'court' spoke french, and gave use french words for what we eat, but the servants, serfs and so on spoke anglo-saxon, so we have germanic based words for animals (beef/cow)(veal/calf),etc.

but i think the point about seasoning (the verb) becoming the noun (or is it the other way round-- season the noun becoming a verb?-- and food terminology being filled with such words is an interesting point.


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Then there is the short cake (shortcake) such as the classic shortcake to serve with strawberries and whipped cream to make strawberry shortcake. This is a cake made from a stiff batter with not a lot of liquid. It comes out rather dry and very crumbly (the better to soak up the strawberry juice).

The Scottish type shortbread (just waiting for Jo to weigh in here) is a cookie (biscuit to the transponders) very similar to shortcake -- on the dry side and very crumbly.


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