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#106756 07/22/03 04:07 PM
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those are great thoughts, Bean. I would guess that there are more of those "I don't know's" out there, too.

mm hmm.



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My Dad - whose first language is not English - can't hear the difference between "uh huh" and "uh uh" and their corresponding humming equivalents.


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prayers are more monotonic than speech

Shouldn't that be monotonous, Bean?


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now who's wearing the skirt?



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parm mah bushel!


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Shouldn't that be monotonous, Bean?

Sorry, I slipped and used a math word IRL (monotonic = not increasing, or not decreasing). (If you call this Real Life.)


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I thought monotonic meant that it only increased or decreased.

E.g.: http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/MonotonicallyIncreasing.html


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I thought monotonic meant that it only increased or decreased.
Well--Bean said that monotonic = not increasing, or not decreasing . (I added the boldface.) Not increasing means, I think, that something either stays the same or decreases; and the opposite for not decreasing. So it seems to me that her def. fits.

I looked at the site, and, while not coming anywhere near real comprehension, I did find it cool that they make a distinction for staying the same. If a sequence could stay the same or get smaller, they say it is "monotonically nonincreasing". If one could stay the same or get larger, they say it is "monotonically nondecreasing".


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her def. fits

Point taken, Jackie. Score another one for careful reading.

a distinction for staying the same.

There's a similar distinction between positive and non-negative. The former does not include zero; the latter does.


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Yeah, what Jackie said. I gave it some thought and was fairly sure that "monotonic" on its own allows the possibility of staying the same, so that's why I defined it so oddly.


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