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#105662 06/14/03 11:25 PM
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a group of concerned citizens lobbied (and succeeded!) in changing a road name on long island a few years ago. it was guinea woods road, and they said is was demeaning to italians!


Umm, how exactly? I wouldn't want to pass up any chance for moral outrage every time my niece refers to her guinea pig.

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many of the words are very similar, more even then german/english words


I remember when I was doing the first year of a two-year German O level course at school, there were some Dutch-language films on TV and I was thrilled to be able to recognise some snatches of dialogue even without looking at the subtitles.

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Dear Bingley: did you know that if you pick up a guinea pig by the tail, its eyes will fall out?They have no tails.
I had had the money to play such games, I'd protest using the name "wasp" for stinging insects. It's demeaning to us poor WASPs


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down the road a piece, guinea pig are more often found on the menu then in a pet shop.. they are considered a special treat to eat, and often featured for mother's day at restaurants.(Roosevelt ave and 108th street in queens is the one of the city's south american enclaves.i live at 97th street, but about a mile from Roosevelt Avenue.)


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let me quell this food thread right away!

crazy. hamster du jour....



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Isn't there a Schuykill River around Philadelphia, too? Not that that there weren't Dutch in PA also, but the term isn't entirely NYC.

Yes, indeed there is, wofa. (pronounced Skoo-kill, BTW) And there's also the notorious Schuykill Expressway, more "affectionately" known as the Surekill Expressway.

And thanks to Helen for pegging that early...there's also the Arthur Kill between Perth Amboy, NJ, and Staten Island, and the Kill Van Kull [sp?] in the NYC region, too.



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So were killies, the minnows that can be found largely in the salt and brackish back-bays and favored as fishing bait, then named by the Dutch as "creek fish"?


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Not that that there weren't Dutch in PA
just a few.

pronounced Skoo-kill
thanks for the pronunciation, WO'N, always wondered about that one.



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I seem to recall someone telling me that in Ireland and possibly Wales, the word kil or kill attached to a name meant that the place is a hill. Can't find an online dictionary, though.


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In Welsh cil* means corner, 'tucked away place' or something along those lines - you may remember the name of the village with the castle with the stairs and deathleap was Cilgerran, which means something like 'Slate Corner'. It was the local quarry & major slateworks 150 years back, and the castle is indeed sited on a bend in the river. Welsh place names are often simply and directly descriptive like that, describing key topographical features.

http://family-tree.hypermart.net/a_welsh_glossary.htm


fwiw, the castle:

http://www.castlewales.com/cliger.html


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