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#104388 05/29/03 09:03 AM
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Just wanted to note that the MW Word of the Day is cacography, poor spelling and/or handwriting, and also a word from wwh's compilation of past Spelling Bee lists.

Although my spelling is generally fine, with regards to handwriting, I fit into the group of fitfully scratching cacographists.

wwh notes--or his source has the note--that the opposite of cacography is calligraphy.


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> I fit into the group of fitfully scratching cacographists.

Me and you both - but its better than being a cacophonist, I say.


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I think that some of my cacography is very pleasing from a strictly esthetic point of view. You might not be able to read it but it looks pretty. Sort of a calligraphic cacography.


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And I suppose one could have cacographic calligraphy.


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I wonder if they still teach handwriting in schools. I had to spend hours practicing just long lines of slightly slanted connected verticals, and then an accordion roll of cconnected circles.The Palmer Method, I think it was called. I wrote in a nice round hand, but never got to be ruler of the Queen's navy. (Hi, wofa!)
I was quietly proud of the fact no nurse or pharmacist ever had to ask me what a word was.Then in Mechanical Drawing, I had to learn to print well. A blessing now that my handwriting has deteriorated, but I can still blockprint
very legibly, an asset now that I can't see what I am writing.
I started this wondering if "cacography" could be extended to mean writing worthless prose. There ought to be a word for that. I'm a master at it.


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writing worthless prose

That'd be hacography, not to be confused with hagiography. Maybe we should spell it hackography.


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I'm looking for a word for "bad prose", as it seems such a vital concept. not much to report as yet, but I did find this Brit. usage, which has the right sound:

tump..
4. fig. Trivial writing, bad prose.

1917 KIPLING Diversity of Creatures 172 It's the most vital, arresting and dynamic bit of tump I've done up to date. 1933 D. L. MURRAY Eng. Family Robinson ii. 36 Did you ever read such tump as our parish magazine?

edit: I guess hack-writing would kinda qualify.

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well, if bad poetry is doggerel, how about catterel?





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#104396 05/29/03 01:16 PM
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On Cacographic calligraphy.

That would be my wife's Chinese handwriting. It's interesting. Each of us has very bad handwriting, yet both of our father's are calligraphers. My dad (step-dad) used to do calligraphy for people - he did it for his bosses in the army, for friends, and now he sometimes incorporates it into the crafts he works on.
I was always intruiged by the fact that he was such a formidable person, but he wrote like a sissy.

My wife's handwriting: well, it looks pretty much like she took holt of a chicken by the neck, shoved it's feet in ink, and daubbed it vigorously all over the page. Her dad's writing, though, as well as her mother's when the woman was alive, were really amazing. The English writing is beautiful, but the Chinese is sublime.

I like these calli/caco words a lot. BTW, my recollection is that cacography refers to either poor handwriting or to bad spelling.

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>my recollection is that cacography refers to either poor handwriting or to bad spelling.

yeah, OED gives it as the "opposite" of both calligraphy and orthography!


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