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NicholasW quoth: You can customize it. Roughly: Tools, Options, Grammar tab, Settings, Relative Clauses checkbox. Turn that off and it stops pissing about with that and which. You can probably amuse yourself turning off lots of other things too.
Yes, and you'll find that your computer runs considerably faster. The grammar checker uses a varying amount of RAM, but seems to sit around 5Mb. Getting rid of it makes Word run more like molasses than a glacier.
You should also be aware that Microsoft bought the grammar checker from someone, can't remember who. Most people at Microsoft don't seem to be able to speak what I consider to be English at all. Read any of their technical papers for confirmation of this.
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Dear Saint Nick ~
Could it be because I have Word for Windows 97 that my grammar tab doesn't include the option which you suggest? I just turned the whole damn thing off.
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Capital Kiwi said : Most people at Microsoft don't seem to be able to speak what I consider to be English at all. Read any of their technical papers for confirmation of this.How true! How True! I am able to read and understand an insurance policy's fine print, and deciphering court decisions was my lot in the newsroom as I had a facility for translating legalese into plain english.  However ... I have yet to learn any shortcut or system by reading and or following a Microsoft manual. It's a Magical Mystery Tour! I have a scanner I cannot use because the directions, even when followed closely, do not produce the desired result i.e. a photo I can put in an Email! I thought it was me until the Computer Guru/Owner at a nearby city's computer store admitted it took him three day, at home, in secret, to figure it out before he tried it at the office! And he was a programer and a hacker in the days when you had to know all that strange voodoo-hoodoo stuff to use a computer. Harumph! Just a chunter but I feel better! wow
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which and that
How lucky we are that the language has evolved since 1611. As Father Steve could tell you, at least we don't have to deal with 'which' vs. 'who' any more. In older English, the Lord's Prayer starts, "our Father which art in Heaven ...". I still hear this every year on Christmas Eve when I listen to the service of lessons and carols from Kings College, Cambridge.
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>("There's a man came into the office the other day").
My question is :
Does the rule of that and which also apply for that and who?
"The man, who came into the office the other day, is here again."
And
"The man that came into the office the other day is here again."
Is any of the above two sentences written wrong?
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>"The man, who came into the office the other day, is here again."
And
>"The man that came into the office the other day is here again."
the clause 'came into the office the other day' is needed; i.e., is restrictive, so the second version is more correct -- leaving out the clause leaves "The man is here again." (which man?)
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> the clause 'came into the office the other day' is needed;
Thanks. That made it easier - just like his, hers, its.
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>"The man, who came into the office the other day, is here again."
And
"The man that came into the office the other day is here again."
Is any of the above two sentences written wrong?
Avy:
These sentences are quite different; they vary because of what the speaker intends.
In the first, the speaker makes an assumption that the listener knows who the man is, and is adding some additional information. Compare to "George, who came into the office the other day, is here again." The speaker has, for some reason, decided you need to know that George was in the office the other day. Otherwise, he would just say, "George is here again."
In the second sentence the speaker is assuming that the listener needs the information about when the person came in the office the other day in order to identify him. Compare to: "The George that came into the office the other day is here again." There is an implication that the listener knows several Georges and the speaker wants to make sure the listener has the correct one in mind.
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> the clause came into the office the other day...
..., said "Ho! Ho! Ho!" and pulled some presents out of his sack.
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