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#101011 - 04/15/03 07:07 AM Re: junioR nitpickeR
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If the hours in our days were evenly divisible by 10

What???? A USn admitting the superiority of 10-based measurement systems??? What IS this world coming to????

#101012 - 04/15/03 07:27 AM Re: junioR nitpickeR
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never had any reason to memorize the "12-plus" tables

Well, geez, if you're gonna translate in to the old system, doesn't seem like there'd be much point to it, does there? No, ya gotta *think in the new system.


It's military time when you leave out the colon.

#101013 - 04/15/03 08:16 AM 12 times tables
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Us older brits have the edge on you there, of course, Jackie. We were all taught out times-tables up to 12, because we had the "old" money then: 12 pence to a shilling, twenty shillings to a pound. A much easier system, in many ways, because there are so many more exact fractions of 12 than of 10.

What was needed was not a move to a universal decimal, but to a universal duodecimal system. (For which there were quite a number of advocates, as I remember.)

#101014 - 04/15/03 08:21 AM Re: junioR nitpickeR
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Seems to me that every digital time telling device in the house is either set to use the 24 hour clock (VCRs for instance) or has the facility to be so set. Is this not the case in the US of A? Can't say I ever noticed.

#101015 - 04/15/03 09:03 AM Re: as time goes by
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pulling this way OT, or at least further, the 12 hour clock uses context to inform, as opposed to the more precise 24 hour clock. what other sorts of things spring to mind that use some sense of context to indicate clarity?

I think that is so poorly worded I shall cringe at the thought of you all reading it, but so it goes... it is also likely that there may be many blatantly obvious examples that are hitting me upside the head as I write, but there that goes, too...

formerly known as etaoin...

#101016 - 04/15/03 09:08 AM Re: junior nitpicker
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[stamping foot again e]

Uhh, Jackie...that's stomping foot again. (unless you're stamping around those champing horses...chomp!chomp!)

#101017 - 04/15/03 09:11 AM Re: junioR nitpickeR
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24 hour clocks on appliances

Our VCR has the 12 hr. traditional clock, but our microwave oven(s) have always had the 24 hour version.

#101018 - 04/15/03 09:36 AM Re: as time goes by
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Hoo boy, the threaded-modesters aren't going to like me for this, 'cause I'm responding to several posts. eta's is the one, however, that I want to keep below for handy ref.

No, nothing in our house has the 24-hr. setting. Whether anything has the capability, I don't know and don't care. There have been VERY few instances in my life when I couldn't tell if it was a.m. or p.m. Heh, I was thinking about my earlier post while I was out; I guess it's pretty obvious that patience is not one of my virtues--at least as long as I don't see the need for it.

Twelve pence/shilling--I nearly put that, because my old friend Philip mourned the loss of the 12-system, for the exact same reason.

Bean: pppptttthhhhhhhhbbbbbbbbb!

Faldage, thanks for the colon info.

WO'N, I figuratively stamp my feet; to me, if you're stomping, you're either dancing or leaving; a person standing in place stamps. And even then, I'm not sure I wouldn't say, "She stamped angrily out of the room".

what other sorts of things spring to mind that use some sense of context to indicate clarity?
Well--emoticons? Also, when my husband says he's going for a ride, I have to look and see whether he's wearing gear for bicycling or motorcycling.

Dang, tsuwm--see what you started??

#101019 - 04/15/03 11:27 AM Re: see what you started??
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a noisome round of nitpick®©™

#101020 - 04/15/03 12:33 PM Re: 12 times tables
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Rhuby, I was taught the times table up to 12 as well, though I'm not quite sure why. Perhaps it's because 12x12 has a specific name (gross), while nothing closely higher than it does.

I always, whenever possible, put my clocks in 24-hour time and also irritatedly correct my acquaintances who scoff at my use of "military time". Rather than it's simplicity, I'd say I use it more for it's relative novelty (over here) and because it's part of my meager attempt for feel more international. Though I must ask, do you actually say "14 o'clock" etc? I was of the impression that, at least in the UK, the 24-hour clock was used mainly for official time keeping and schedules, while people still say "2 o'clock." I'm remember getting an odd look the one time I said something like "it's thirteen twenty-five right now."

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