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#145964 08/04/05 12:19 AM
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Dr Woo Suk Hwang disclosed to the world that he has successfully cloned an Afghan hound to produce a 100-day-old puppy named Snuppy. There was a photo of Snuppy and the adult male dog from whom his cells were taken. I almost referred to the larger, adult dog as his "father" when it occurred to me that this can't possibly be the correct terminology. What name ought be given to the animal from whom a cloned animal's cells first came?


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I almost referred to the larger, adult dog as his "father" ... What name ought be given to the animal from whom a cloned animal's cells first came?

Patrione?

P.S. Would that make the first offspring patri2?

And so on:

patri3, patri4, patri5?

Untl, at last:

patri-infinitisimo?

Infinitisimutt?



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progenitor?


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A progenitor is a forefather, an ancestor, one who begets.

There is not a lot of begetting going on in cloning. The "gen" in progenitor is the same "gen" as in genitalia and there ain't no genitalia involved in cloning.


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The original?


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Putting those two thoughts together, how about the origenator ~ or perhaps for those who heartily disapprove of this process, the origenaterr?


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Yeah, the gen in progenitor is from the same root as genitals but...its also found in a host of words about birth, beginnings, belong to by birth, and eventual being related to, such as:

genesis
generate
genus
germ
gender
gentile

there are specis of lizzard that reproduce by virtual cloning (paragenesis) but since were talking about a new process perhaps what is needed is a new term for the Host and clone(s).





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>What name ought be given to the animal from whom a cloned animal's cells first came?

donor.


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My first thought was the same as jj's. Anyway, one site had this to say: Dolly ... is a clone, an exact genetic replica of her donor "mother," a six-year-old female sheep.


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Father Steve:

I would think we need a new word for such a new concept. There exists already the word doppelganger, which means literally the double goer in German. Why not coin two new wordsL

Einzelganger
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Erstenganger.

The former would mean a living unit without a clone, and would mean literally a single goer.

The other word, erstenganger, would mean literally the first goer, and would specifically designate an original which had a clone.

Curly


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