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to Mrs. Edwards and I

I wonder if anyone has ever heard anything on the model of to Mrs. Edwards or I?


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The incorrect usage of the pronoun "I" gives me shivers up my spine.

For me it's the constant and insistent English misuse of the word "yourself". I don't know how many times people have said "Oh, I wanted to talk to yourself about that." or "That would be important to yourself." I feel like asking "Which of my selves?" What the f*ck is wrong with "you"? Not enough syllables or summat?



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There's been a definite loosening of the reins regarding ending sentences with prepositions. It is no longer "something up with which we will not put."


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"Oh, I wanted to talk to yourself about that." or "That would be important to yourself."

I have never, ever heard this usage, Pfranz. Is is Zild or midlands Brit or both or more?


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you obviously don't hear enough after-the-game interviews, ASp; to wit:
They came right at myself, so James [the aforementioned self] had to make the play. Yourself shouldn't be dissin' me about that.


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I wonder if anyone has ever heard anything on the model of to Mrs. Edwards or I?--Faldage

Thanks, Faldage. I'll use your own model here to help show the kids how to listen for the misuse of the hypercorrected "so&so and I".


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Betsy, it's Brit bizspeak. They all do it. It's indescribable!


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> They all do it

Balls. I hardly ever hear it. I suspect it may be more prevalent north of Watford...


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Not a grammar change but involving punctuation.
The use of lower case "s" and an apostrophe when pluralizing numbers and acronyms (e.g., F-14's, PC's).
I am told that current usage says leave out the apostrophe.
Although I may have used it incorrectly throughout my early school years, I was never corrected. Logically, the apostrophe connotes a possessive; but until recently, I thought when pluralizing things like "the roaring 20s", it was optional or at least acceptable. Did something change, or did I lead a sheltered life in grade school?


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GBS left a trust fund (with very little money in it!)funded by royalties from his work to support a 'society' dedicated to the the eliminations of 'extra' puctuation, like the dot after Mr or Mrs- The society, didn't get much done, since Shaw spent most of his money when he was alive. but "My Fair Lady"- in London, NY, World Tours, the movie, etc, poured huge amounts of royalties into the trust fund, (after his death) and the society (with some fancy sounding name) has been quietly working to get rid of dots/periods, dashes, hyphens (in words) apostrophes and other puctuation in spelling. The Economist style book has adapted most of the recommendations. YCLIU, i am sure. they are much more 'active' in UK, but they are a factor in some of the changes.

Its not really grammer, its punctuation, they are trying to perfect.


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