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#75131 07/06/02 06:36 PM
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It seems logical to presume so, yes.


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#75133 07/06/02 07:06 PM
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I smell a rat. A Keiva rat. Go away Keiva. You are not welcome to post here.

Keiva is using his wife's log-on to post his tripe again. Don't deny it because you can't fool me.


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Keiva dissembles. By entitling his thread "Proposal for a Solution," he seeks not actually to legitimate what he says, but to lend it the *appearance* of legitimacy. Keiva’s language seems to refer to an arbitration in which he is engaged, either with wordsmith or the other members of this forum. This is "seeming" in its active sense; in the present context, it might almost be thought malicious. It is, in any event, performative speech and wildly imaginative.

There is no arbitration here, but rather, a series of one-sided threats to bring suit. The implied reference to a non-existent abitration is an attempt to create the illusion not only of the existence of such arbitration, but its pre-existence. That is, it is an effort to create the--false--impression that we have been engaged in engaged an arbitration all along.

There is method in this. Pretending to offer ‘a solution’ in the context of an arbitration, lends that ‘solution’ the appearance of fairness: an arbitration must strive for fairness and 'the solution' is offered as a part and in the spirit thereof.

But that is only half the method. Here is the underbelly. By pretending the context of a quasi-legal forum, Keiva offers his solution with a tacit reference to law and as though his complaints had been found to have merit. That is, his ‘solution’ contains a veiled reiteration of the same old threat.

Thus, the ‘solution’ thread is just another bullying tactic. It is designed to extract concessions, not on the basis of what is fair or proper, but on the basis of an imperial sense of entitlement.

Put simply, "I will leave if you do ‘x’ for me," is the sort of thing one is used to hear from the mouths of bullies.




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#75136 07/06/02 08:05 PM
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I think it should be clear to all of us by now, Wordsmith does not wish to be
involved. Why should he? He has nothing to gain, no obligation to us, no need
to expose himself to the unpleasantness. To which we are adding more fuel.


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Keiva is using his wife's log-on to post his tripe again.

No, Rubrick, 'tis me, Nancy. Read my post again. There are clues that it is I.


Really? Then have a look at the following line taken from your last post:

I thought posting this letter would prevent that.

Exactly what letter do you refer to? The one at the top of the page posted under the title 'Rosten'? You're right. It's either a blatant clue or else you really are just dense.


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I think it should be clear to all of us by now, Wordsmith does not wish to be involved. Why should he? He has nothing to gain, no obligation to us, no need to expose himself to the unpleasantness. To which we are adding more fuel.

Bill's right. This must be causing Anu so much pain - to see something that he so lovingly set up, for linguaphiles the world over to play in, be so filled with hatred and angst. I do agree with all the above posts about what Keiva/Rosten/whatever is up to, and I think he's wrong. But now I have to quote Slartibartfast, from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - I'd far rather be happy than right.

Don't know what it will take to be happy here....maybe just staying out of I&A? which I can't seem to do - some fun stuff goes on up here too.....Alas.

So sorry Anu, if you're reading this, for my part in its continuance. I will try to be more faithful to the spirit of the board from now on, a la WordWind.

Let us go in peace to love and serve the board.

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Keiva here. How free you are to toss out charges, bill, knowing that any screen-name that disagrees with you will promptly be prevented from posting.

Exactly who was issuing threats, bill? You are the one who admitted that you were deliberately trying to "tramatize" me (this from a psychiatrist, no less), who repeatly called me "contemptible", and who PM'd me saying, "Expect no mercy." It's all of record.


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Keiva/delorme go jump off a short dock into a deep lake and don't forget to put on your cement overshoes. Please and thank you.


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