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#71869 05/31/02 04:33 PM
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Jackie et al.

In the past I have avoided to the greatest extent the politics on this board. I did once express the shame I felt when someone was castigated for suggesting that people in her area might want to sign up for her class. Other than that I've pretty much kept my mouth shut. Why?

On another board some years ago there was a person who espoused the killing of mental defectives and the involuntary starving of quadriplegics. I made the mistake of saying to him, "Hitler woulda loved it." And I got bounced from the board because I "called this guy a Nazi." I don't miss that board (it wasn't word related, more social), but it made me aware of how what seemed like innocent words can get you in trouble. I promised myself I'd avoid such things.

But I will miss this board if it falls apart as it appears to be doing. I want AWADtalk to continue.

I want it so much that I hereby pledge $1,000 US towards the legal defense of Jackie or Anu if they decide to ban Keiva and are then subject to lawsuit.

A thousand bucks buys enough legal service to stop a frivolous lawsuit dead in its tracks, in my opinion. And, though I have not consulted the lawyer I sleep with (and will probably not do so) I am certain that a lawsuit to force the unbanning of a person from a group like this would be frivolous in nature and might well subject the plaintiff or his attorney to the close scrutiny of the local bar association.

TEd, much saddened and much wiser





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TEd, if I understand you to be saying you that no valid legal action would lie for the act of simply banning a person from a private group such as this one, then I fully agree with you.

I hereby match your pledge, toward the defense of any such action.

#71871 05/31/02 06:19 PM
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From which you can perhaps deduce, TEd, that I didn't threaten any such suit.


#71872 05/31/02 06:36 PM
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Wordsmith in his post "Why" makes it very clear that he was yielding only to unspoken threat of lawsuit.

"I un-banned Keiva only after consulting Jackie and both of us agreed
there was no other option. Sorry to know that some are disappointed,
but we do not have time or resources to fight a lawsuit."


#71873 05/31/02 06:52 PM
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For the record, there were written and spoken threats and notices of lawsuit.


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Dear Wordsmith: Thank you for having taken the trouble to document forked tongue deceit of Keiva.


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forked tongue? Not precisely, Dr. Bill. I had said that I would help defray legal costs to defend against a lawsuit requiring the unbanning of an individual.

I'm getting the feeling there may have been discussion about libel. If that's the case, the statement about "no such lawsuit" is technically correct. This is akin to the literal truth of saying that the oral favors I got from "that woman" weren't sex, where "sex" is defined or assumed to be vaginal intercourse only.

I wonder whether we would ever get simple yes or no answers to the questions, "Have you ever threatened either explicitly or implicitly to file a lawsuit or any other form of legal proceeding in this matter? If so, have you ever said or implied that you would refrain from or desist from filing such a lawsuit if the person or persons to be named as respondents would reverse their position and unban you from the AWADtalk board?"

Now, let me run of to my BCLD (Bill Clinton Legal Dictionary) to see if I can find what the definition of "is" is. While I'm there I'm going to see if there's a definition of a Full Lewinsky.




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#71877 05/31/02 09:39 PM
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I came here almost exactly 2 years ago as a young, somewhat na´ve high school student with a passion for language and the beautiful literature that it created. While my intent was to further educate myself, my dad told me to get a social life. Over the past two years, I think I've sufficiently done both. In many ways I feel the same as I did back then, but I can tell that these passings of late have aged me considerably. When this whole affair began I foresaw such an ending as we are facing now, and hoped that it wouldn't be so, but I now have the wisdom to understand that both of my original goals are now futile. The light-hearted intellectual atmosphere is now gone and so are my friends, so I see no motive in making my presence here anymore.


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I am just quoting part of a PM I received from Jackie.
Without permission.



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