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#37532 08/16/01 03:21 PM
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! Multiverses
Like The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner d'ye mean?
or Eskimo Nell ?


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If someone in the future travels back in time and alters history we couldn't know about (the alteration) it if it happens(ed)...

Since the "first time" could possibly erase the potential for it to happen again (or at all)... the suggestion that time is not linear by nature, only perspective, and that time travel (backward) is impossible, must follow.

...alternate histories theory...

Given the constant proof of "perception is reality" that flies in the face of logic... I'm starting to believe it...

edit-How fitting it was that the e-mail I had waiting for me after posting this was tsuwm's wwftd...


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Re: tsuwm little limerick...

i did that-- really-- when i flew home to NY from Norita, i left Japan at 3PM on a sunday afternoon, and got to NY at 1PM the same sunday-- after flying for 14 hours! (and let me tell you it is very disconcerting!) so i got home to NY, 2 hours before i left japan.

and as for multiverses-- they have pretty much been proven by quantum physics.. but i know enough about that to know i don't understand it-- but some times i think i do (which proves i can't possible understand it!)


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> I have never heard any suggestion that time is demonstrably lacking in uniformity. The Almighty seems to have a steady foot on the accelerator pedal.

To get back to the original idea behind this thread, there was a story in the paper yesterday that some physicists have "determined" that certain constants may not be constant after all. The constant in question, which I cannot remember having heard of before, is alleged to have changed by one part in a couple hundred thousand during the life of the universe. There was speculation that this may mean that, for instance, the speed of light may change or that pi might be something more or less than 3.14159.................. Had to do with the aging of the universe, I think, though I couldn't follow as much of it as I would have liked.



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This has been the best thread to read in AWADtalk for months. I am pretty convinced that despite the obvious intelligence, forethought, and cerebral fortitude of the AWADcrowd, we are probably missing what is TRUE by about 3.14 lightyears. I envision that when we wake from the sleep of this life, we will look around in amazement at how far off our greatest minds were.


#37537 08/16/01 07:39 PM
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>...we will look around in amazement at how far off our greatest minds were.

wassamatta-u, has the superstring theory thrown you for a loop?
http://www.superstringtheory.com/


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>there was a story in the paper yesterday that some physicists have "determined" that certain constants may not be constant after all.

this isn't the whole story that is in the NYTimes (e.g.), but it gives you a taste. (for those of you who've registered at the Times, search for "speed of light")

http://www.pioneerplanet.com/seven-days/wed/news/docs/110749.htm


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The Superstring link: thank you, tsuwm, thank you!!!
Immediate bookmark! Grand, just GRAND! Perfectly easy to comprehend for non-scientists. Ex: The so-called "Newton's Laws of Motion" are not abstract laws that Nature is somehow forced to obey, but the observed behavior of Nature that is described in the language of mathematics. In Newton's time, theory and experiment went together.And this: General relativity has had many observational successes that proved its worth as a description of Nature, but two of the predictions of this theory have staggered the public and scientific imaginations: the expanding Universe, and black holes. Both have been observed, and both encapsulate issues that, at least in the mathematics, brush up against the very nature of reality and existence. And, In order to include fermions in string theory, there must be a special kind of symmetry called supersymmetry, which means for every boson (particle that transmits a force) there is a corresponding fermion (particle that makes up matter). Is this cool, or what?? I'm going to stop and post this now, before I quote the entire link. Bless you,
my dear, for showing me how to find this.







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no matter how far in the future it might be invented, someone will have finally traveled back and spilled the beans.
Don't you know, Earthman, that Time fits together like a jigsaw puzzle? Lucky for you I took Time in college back in 1705.


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unless the alternate histories theory is true...

*This was the subject of a recent Discover article.

http://www.discover.com/science_news/

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