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#198339 03/16/11 03:08 PM
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From last week but still no answer:

How is dachshund supposed to derive from kwon? It is obviously from German dachs and hund and multiple sources put it at 'badger dog'. This is another one of those cases of "Whuhh?"

Colour him cynical:

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Aramis #198341 03/16/11 04:34 PM
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Kwon? Kwon? Is that Pie speak?

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Initial /k/ in PIE became /h/ in Germanic. Some specific examples:


PIE ker- English hearth Compare Latin derived carbon
PIE kerd- English heart Compare Latin cor

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Aramis, you do honour to your falcon image. A flyghty passer-by.
I'm sure in the era of kwon there were no Dachshunde yet. Hunde yes. So I guess kwon became hwon and after some more juggling hon- hond- hunde. Dutch still retains the o - hond.
Don't ask me how Hunde-hond became dog. Or vice versa.

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Don't ask me how Hunde-hond became dog. Or vice versa.

It didn't. There is no accepted etymology for the English word dog.


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and we also use the word hound for dog...


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we also use the word hound for dog

Yes, and English hound is related etymologically to PIE *kwon 'dog'.


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How could I have forgotten the hounds... blush


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