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#193393 10/08/10 03:08 PM
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In the Tlingit culture of Alaska, young boys usually about age 3-4 would be taken from their parents and be given to their uncle to raise as it was believed the uncle would be better at bringing them up in a more strict atmosphere.

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I've read about this, seemed to work.


----please, draw me a sheep----
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'Dutch Uncle' seems to be stricter, installing discipline and maybe less kind
opposite meaning to the other word this week
avuncular or uncle like who is more indulgent, understanding and tender.

I wonder why this should be!

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In many African families living with an uncle will mean more beatings.

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young boys usually about age 3-4 would be taken from their parents and be given to their uncle to raise

Not just any uncle, but one of the mother's brothers. Membership in a Tlingit clan was mainly via matrilinear descent. The fathers did take an interest in their son's grandchildren.

The pronunciation of Tlingit in Tlingit is /ɫɪŋkɪt/ and is sometimes pronounced Klinkit in English. The voiceless alveolar lateral fricative /ɫ/ is the same as the Welsh phoneme represented by ll.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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as in the town Llanfair?


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as in the town Llanfair?

Yep, as in a lot of Welsh words. Llan means originally 'an enclosed piece of land'. By the way, the f in Llanfair is pronounced /v/. Ff is pronounced /f/.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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--thanks. That 58 letter town on the Island of Anglesey
must be a real "bugger" to pronounce, having the ll more
than one time and f's as well.
thanks.


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That 58 letter town on the Island of Anglesey
must be a real "bugger" to pronounce


The name was coined in the mid-19th century to provide the longest placename on record. The -fair- in the name means 'of Mary'. Llanfair means '(St) Mary's church'.

The phonological change of m to v is common in Celtic languages and is called lenition in linguistics (an older term was consonant mutation).


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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I've been to that town in Wales. And had just read
Morgan's "How Green Was My Valley". The slate was all over
the ground, and I asked a local boy, whose name was
Gwyneth Jones to carve the name of the town (Llanfair)
on a piece of slate. He found a nail and did so, and
I still have it as a souvenir of Wales. It was
very much fun hearing the boy say the name of the town.
A good memory. There is so much I do not know about
linguistics,but I thank you for helping me out here.


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