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isnt asimov also credited with coining 'robotics' before there was such an industry?
OP Originally Posted By: latishyaisnt asimov also credited with coining 'robotics' before there was such an industry?
indeed... but it really wouldnt count as a new word, just an extension of 'robot' which of course is from Karel Capeks Czech Play RUR, the word meaning 'serf'/'slave'.
R.U.R. (‘Rossum's Universal Robots’) (1920)
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OP Also, its been quite some time since I heard anyone insist that 'Robot' be pronounced correctly with the 't' silent, rather than as 'Roh-Baht'... i guess we have Hollywood to credit for that...
Originally Posted By: Fieldgunner
indeed... but it really wouldnt count as a new word, just an extension of 'robot' which of course is from Karel Capeks Czech Play RUR, the word meaning 'serf'/'slave'.
anyone who knows anything about robots already knows that but the parameters of this discussion were as follws:
"a word exists before the concept does"
the word "robotics" existed before the concept of robotics did in just the same way that the words artificial and satellite existed as words before Clarke put them together to describe a concept that did not exist when he coined the phrase.
I am also confused by this"Correctly"? By whose fiat? I do not speak czech and feel no obligation to try to pronounce the English word 'robot' as if it were the czech word from which it was derived any more than I feel obliged to pronounce yacht as if it were the dutch word from which it was derived. Defining 'correctly' as "common in standard variants" the robot does not have a silent "t" in English and since it is now an English word that is enough for me.Quote:its been quite some time since I heard anyone insist that 'Robot' be pronounced correctly with the 't' silent
OP Re 1... the word exists before the concept does.
That was just an aside in the discussion, my friend... actually the discussion is about inventing new words/phrases inspired by science fiction. Though most of us here are actually just putting up words that have already been used, I started the thread with the hope of hearing some original ones.
Re2...Pronunciation of 'Robot'.
I apologise if it seems to you that i can somehow, over the internet, 'oblige' you to speak the word in a certain way, thus inhibiting your freedom of choice...duh!
You are right, of course. In english, the word does have the 't' audible. I stand corrected.
Back on topic-
Psyron- massless, weightless, chargeless particle which travels faster than light and bends time-space in its path as it travels carrying information between telepaths. Also shows wavelike properties and thus...Psyflux- roughly, brainwaves.
robot
From the Czech word robota 'servitude' < rab slave'. Our word slave is from the (Latin) ethnonym Sclavus Slav' (cf. Russian слава, slava, 'fame', слово, slovo, 'word') < PIE *kleu- 'to hear'. And serf is from latin servus 'slave, servant'
silent t
I have never heard this, but it makes no sense at all. The word robot is a borrowing of the Czech word robota in which the t is pronounced. Besides androids and automata, there was the medieval Jewish story of the Golem (Yiddish goylem) created by Rabbi Loew of Prague. In French, robot is pronounced without voicing the t, but as the play R.U.R. was translated from the Czech (by Paul Sever who also translated The Good Soldier Švejk) and not the French, I cannot see how this has any bearing on the English pronunciation.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
Originally Posted By: FieldgunnerPsyron
Psyron 0bvious
tsuwm?
formerly known as etaoin...
you rong?
Eye-wrung fluttered by.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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