|
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 4
stranger
|
OP
stranger
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 4 |
I wonder.... Is 'wend' related to 'wander'?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295 |
It's that you ask about it. I had already looked it up on Online Etymology: > link Online Etymologyas I was wondering about the relation with "to wind" 'That long and winding road that leads etc.' wend "to proceed on," O.E. wendan "to turn, go," from P.Gmc. *wandijanan (cf. O.S. wendian, O.N. venda, O.Fris. wenda, Du. wenden, Ger. wenden, Goth. wandjan "to turn"), causative of O.E. windan "to turn, twist" (see wind (v.)), from base *wand-, *wend- "turn." Surviving only in to wend one's way, and in hijacked past tense form went. wind (v.) "move by turning and twisting," O.E. windan "to turn, twist, wind" (class III strong verb; past tense wand, pp. wunden), from P.Gmc. *wendanan (cf. O.S. windan, O.N. vinda, O.Fris. winda, Du. winden, O.H.G. wintan, Ger. winden, Goth. windan "to wind"), from PIE *wendh- "to turn, wind, weave" (cf. L. viere "twist, plait, weave," vincire "bind," Lith. vyti "twist, wind"). Related to wend, which is its causative form, and to wander. Wind down "come to a conclusion" is recorded from 1952; wind up "come to a conclusion" is from 1825. Winding sheet "shroud of a corpse" is attested from c.1420.
Last edited by BranShea; 05/14/09 08:06 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1
stranger
|
|
stranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1 |
I always think of wend as meaning to meander, to wander, to go slowly.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295 |
Yes, welcome and so to MC Quoid. That's what made me associate it with that long and winding road. Wenden is a Dutch verb meaning a moderate change of direction.
It's used in a figurative way as "wenden en keren".
Context: "whichever way you wendt and turn it, it can't be done."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290 |
The suppletive past tense of the English verb go, went, was originally the past tense (and past participle) of the verb wend < Old English wendan. The Old English past tense of gān 'to go' was eōde ( link). This was also a case of paradigmatic suppletion. This other root for 'to go' was related to the Latin eō, īre. To make matter curiouser, the PIE root for go * ghē- ( link) yields Sanskrit √ gam 'to go', gacchati 's/he goes', but Latin veniō and Greek βαινω ( bainō) both with the meaning come.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 9,919 Likes: 3
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 9,919 Likes: 3 |
Yes, welcome and so to MC Quoid. That's what made me associate it with that long and winding road. Wenden is a Dutch verb meaning a moderate change of direction.
It's used in a figurative way as "wenden en keren".
Context: "whichever way you wendt and turn it, it can't be done." It's an extremely poetic and colorful word. Welcome McQuoid.
----please, draw me a sheep----
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 132
member
|
|
member
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 132 |
"wend" was the causative of "wind", just like "set" was the causative of "sit", "raise" was the causative of "rise", and "lay" was the causative of "lie".
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 9,919 Likes: 3
Carpal Tunnel
|
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 9,919 Likes: 3 |
Ah, the old "lie, lay, lain" business: shades of elementary school.
----please, draw me a sheep----
|
|
|
|
Forums16
Topics13,913
Posts229,372
Members9,182
| |
Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
|
|
|
1 members (A C Bowden),
729
guests, and
1
robot. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
