Wordsmith.org: the magic of words

Wordsmith Talk

About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us  

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2
I
ivan Offline OP
stranger
OP Offline
stranger
I
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2
I need to translate a Czech term involving the common noun 'prosba' - the noun form of 'prosit' - to beg. The closest English noun that I can come up with is 'demand', 'request' but these nouns have a drastically different meaning than 'to beg'.

Is there an appropriate (and not too exotic) English noun? If not, how can I get around it? Do I have to use the verb?

By the way, I think that a 'topic of the week' on common terms from other languages that don't have a common English equivalent would be quite interesting.

Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
beg [n] - an act of begging

"Agenda and minutes and constituents' grievances, and charitable appeals and ordinary begs." - Punch

ron o.

edit: beggary, mendicity, begging, cadging, mooching, panhandling

Last edited by tsuwm; 08/29/08 04:32 PM. Reason: expand-a-post
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,400
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,400
Alms, alms for the poor!

People who want money beg, people who give money to the poor give alms.

people who get money (from the state) are on the dole, or on welfare. (UK/US)

some times beggers, are called "charity cases" (especially if they require services (like hospital services) that they just show up for, and make use , when they can't pay for them.

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
prosba

Depending on the context: request, entreaty, demand, desire, appeal, plea, pleading, supplication, or prayer. Czech (and other Slavic languages) prosit is cognate with German fragen 'to ask' and Latin precor 'to entreat, pray for, wish for'; the latter is also the origin of English pray via French.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 155
M
member
Offline
member
M
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 155
I'll throw in imploration, although I don't recall an instance of its being used.

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,067
old hand
Offline
old hand
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,067
alms, a donation, a gift, or charity

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2
I
ivan Offline OP
stranger
OP Offline
stranger
I
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2
I think I may not have been quite clear. I am looking for a noun corresponding to the verb 'to beg', as in 'to beg for mercy' or 'to beg for an alm'. As 'request' is the noun form of 'to request', etc. You can say 'request for exemption' so how do you say '(beg nonun) for mercy'?

Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
I don't think you have paid attention to some answers then; you can say 'his beg for mercy' (or appeal, plea, supplication, entreaty, etc.). seriously.

-ron o.

Last edited by tsuwm; 08/30/08 04:20 PM.
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2
J
stranger
Offline
stranger
J
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2
You can use the noun 'plea', which can be taken as "begging with desperation."

You can also turn a noun into a verb by doubling the 'g' and adding the suffix '-ing' and using an article like 'a' or 'the' before the word. But that isn't used much with beg. Previous posts have a variety of noun alternates that will work for you.

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 557
M
addict
Offline
addict
M
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 557
I think we could be more helpful if you could give an example of the sentence you're trying to write with a ______ to fill in.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Jackie 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Statistics
Forums16
Topics13,907
Posts228,530
Members9,162
Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
Newest Members
Doctor, Silverfox, Red_Canoe, Merchant7, crusoe66
9,162 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 74 guests, and 3 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters(30 Days)
Top Posters
wwh 13,858
Faldage 13,803
Jackie 11,613
tsuwm 10,542
wofahulicodoc 10,002
LukeJavan8 9,872
AnnaStrophic 6,511
Wordwind 6,296
of troy 5,400
Disclaimer: Wordsmith.org is not responsible for views expressed on this site. Use of this forum is at your own risk and liability - you agree to hold Wordsmith.org and its associates harmless as a condition of using it.

Home | Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Subscribe | FAQ | Archives | Search | Feedback
Wordsmith Talk | Wordsmith Chat

© 1994-2022 Wordsmith

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5