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#177938 07/04/08 01:38 PM
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maze n. a network of paths and hedges designed as a puzzle through which one has to find a way.

labyrinth n. a complicated irregular network of passages or paths in which it is difficult to find one's way; a maze


The dictionary treats these words as synonyms. However, reading the Wiki article on Labyrinths today I discovered that a distinction has developed:

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The term labyrinth is often used interchangeably with maze, but modern scholars of the subject use a stricter definition. For them, a maze is a tour puzzle in the form of a complex branching passage with choices of path and direction; while a single-path (unicursal) labyrinth has only a single Eulerian path to the center. A labyrinth has an unambiguous through-route to the center and back and is not designed to be difficult to navigate.


This is strange. My dictionary tries to tell me that the word labyrinth comes from Daedalus whose maze/labyrinth for the Minotaur was meant to be inextricable.


Down a different path, I've always enjoyed that felicitous connection between a maze and amaze

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Mathematicians have a set of terms which are rigorously defined. That their term labyrinth does not agree to the same term in antiquity has little influence on them. Also, note the use of meant to be in the dictionary definition. Does anybody know if labyrinths in classical times were mazes or labyrinths in the mathematical sense?


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Does anybody know if labyrinths in classical times were mazes or labyrinths in the mathematical sense?

I'm not sure.

But maze comes from OE, labyrinth from the Greek. To the fussy-minded, this puts a Minotaur in the labyrinth, inextricably. But perhaps that labyrinth is both unicursal and infinite, or perhaps the time it takes the Minotaur to walk out of it exceeds the Minotaur's life span. In that case, the mathematicians' terminology squares with antiquity.



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That their term labyrinth does not agree to the same term in antiquity has little influence on them.

True. But scientists/mathematicians do draw on literature when naming stuff, and usually get it right. Quark is an obvious example. There are others.

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 Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
Does anybody know if labyrinths in classical times were mazes or labyrinths in the mathematical sense?

I'd be almost certain that the correct answer to that question is "no."

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It depends on whether we are talking about real labyrinths or the labyrinths of ancient myth and legend.

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It depends on whether we are talking about real labyrinths or the labyrinths of ancient myth and legend.

Yes, a more proper question would've been: Does anybody know if any of the extant labyrinths in classical times are mazes or labyrinths in the mathematical sense?


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 Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
It depends on whether we are talking about real labyrinths or the labyrinths of ancient myth and legend.

Yes, a more proper question would've been: Does anybody know if any of the extant labyrinths in classical times are mazes or labyrinths in the mathematical sense?

I've only ever heard of one being discovered. On Crete wasn't it? But don't remember what it was like. I don't think ancient legends describe mazes or labyrinths in any detail do they? And how many are there anyway, apart from the minotaur story?

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Wikipedia mentions both the labyrinths and mazes of history; but then again, it doesn't seem to stick to the mathematical distinction, using at one point the mathematical-oxymoron: "unicursal maze."

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 Originally Posted By: Hydra
mathematical-oxymoron

I would have thought it's actually just an oxymoron. A 'mathematical oxymoron' would be itself an oxymoron, since oxymoron is not mathematical but a figure of speech. Rhetoric allows delightful ambiquities such as oxymorons, mathematics doesn't - it's either right or wrong.

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