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Obviousizing and Others #102286
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First question:

Did tsuwm invent obviousize or did somebody else invent the word?

Second question:

What other words on AWAD have been invented here that have continued to exist at least here?

Third question:

Is it true that OED needs to find new words in just five or six printed sources to put 'em into the dictionary if that board believes they're generally used?

Fourth question:

If tsuwm did invent obviousize and the third question gets an affirmative answer, then we need to push all the professional writers here to use obviousize in their published texts, and the rest of us need to use obviousize more out in the real 3D world so tsuwm's word will be picked up by the OED, don't we? [...told you it was a question!]

If tsuwm didn't invent obviousize, then never mind.


Re: Obviousizing and Others #102287
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[...told you it was a question!]

Sounds like a plot to me!

Yeahbut®, how do we ensure, if adopted by the OED, that the etymology of obviousize is traced back to tsuwm and this board? [the plot thickens...] And does tsuwm want to be tsuwm or his real name in the pages of OED posterity?




Re: Obviousizing and Others #102288
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to the best of my recollected archives, I verbed this adjective (I had already adapted, adopted and improved my ron obvious personna) way back in 1994; to wit (and completely out of context), from a private email:

maf> > those weren't really questions, were they!
jmh> neither was that.

maf> there you go again. <Reaganesque pause> Obviousizing the stated.


I believe the only other person who has actually been observed using it here is our own ASp.
-ron o.

p.s. - for the etymologists, I think the usage was influenced by the phrase "it's casual to the obvious observer".

Re: Obviousizing and Others #102289
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So, now, when the OED etymologists do their power search they'll pull up this thread and, "bingo!". Cool, tsuwm!


Re: Obviousizing and Others #102290
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casual to the obvious observer

You knew Eddie John?


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>You knew Eddie John?

I don' thin' so. this is the sort of construction that lends itself readily to hypallage(?).


Re: casual to the obvious observer #102292
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hypallage

from Merriam Websters:

>Main Entry: hy·pal·la·ge
Pronunciation: hI-'pa-l&-jE, hi-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek hypallagE, literally, interchange, from hypallassein to interchange, from hypo- + allassein to change, from allos other -- more at ELSE
Date: 1586
: an interchange of two elements in a phrase or sentence from a more logical to a less logical relationship (as in "a mind is a terrible thing to waste" for "to waste a mind is a terrible thing")<

Hmmm...so to obviousize a hypallage would be to point to the most obfuscating construction, wouldn't it?...so how is that obviousizing? Isn't obviousizing the obfuscation leaning to far into paradox to qualify as obviousizing? Or is simplifying the perception of the confusion covered in your coinage, tsuwm? Or sumptin' like dat.







Re: casual to the obvious observer #102293
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Go here right now!

http://theheronlibraries.homestead.com/poetryh.html

This poor page has only been visited 164 times.

On it I read that hypallage is a type of hyperbaton. We've mentioned hyperbaton on this board before.

Hypallage and hyperbaton can best be described as shuffling the words around in your sentences like Scrabble tiles on your Scrabble tray. For good effect.


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Good grief, WW, I didn't even make it to the "hy--'s" before coming across a new word: apocopated. Atomica:
a·poc·o·pe
n.
The loss of one or more sounds from the end of a word, as in Modern English sing from Middle English singen.

[Late Latin, from Greek apokopç, from apokoptein, to cut off : apo-, apo- + koptein, to cut.]


I found another new word on the site, that I really like:
hypercatalectic
Having an additional syllable after the final complete foot in a line of verse. A verse marked by hypercatalexis is called hypermetrical.

But I like hypercatalexis even better! [under my breath: supercalifragilistic...]
I do wish the site gave some examples; it says there are three types of hyperbaton, and I'd have a better understanding of what they are if I could see them used. Oh! Look what I just found on another page: acatalectic!
And, mercy, look at this one: afflatus
A creative inspiration, as that of a poet; a divine imparting of knowledge, thus it is often called divine afflatus.
That sounds almost blasphemous!



Re: casual to the obvious observer #102295
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Hey, ASp!...you're a hyperbaton!...and, specifically, yet!

From Dub-Dub's link: >Specific types of hyperbaton are anastrophe, hypallage, and hysteron proteron.<





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