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Most of the self-honest people who wander into my courtroom are more interested in mercy than justice
That's what I'd best ask for. Justice would mean that the supplicant gets what he deserves, and in that case there would be hell to pay.
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HTML/HTTP (i.e. The Web) is very much geared up for downloading "little and often". Threaded Mode caters for that scenario better, so in theory at least should provide better performance
I think I'll have to disagree with this. Though the individual pages will load faster than one, the time spent in backing up and loading the next page ten times will take longer than loading one page with ten posts. Another reason the sum of the individual parts is greater than the whole is because all the heading stuff at the top of the page needs to load only once rather than ten times.
As for getting mixed up with the topic, that's why we put a portion of the responded to post at the top of our new post.
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Dear me  In reply to:
My concern is that I would greatly regret the loss of the voice of someone like Mr B in this forum, particularly if he felt bound to withdraw by being overwhelmed with sheer quantity of posts.
So kind!
I do seem to have started something. I certainly have no desire to cramp anyone else's style, and have always found the see-sawing between sober fact and outright lunacy one of the charms of the place. I didn't mean it as any sort of plea for people to slow down either. It's just a fact of life that AWAD takes up about three quarters of my time online if not more and there are other corners of cyberspace I want to catch up with occasionally. I'm pleased to see that AWAD loading times have speeded up recently, which makes a big difference. I don't think I'll be disappearing any time soon.
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Sorry Shona, I agree with Jazz, I've tried it and I just can't be bothered with threaded mode - I can always go back to it if I'm losing the plot but I'd rather wait a couple of seconds to see the whole thread loaded up in flat mode.
This may relate to my natural female ability to multi-task. I can find lots of useful ways of using the few seconds that it takes to load a whole thread. I am rarely disorientated as I generally understand which reply relates to which post as I'm used to doing several things at once. For example, I am opening the snail mail, organising packed lunches and balancing on a stool momentarily so I can check the spice cupboard for the spelling of cardomom! Thank goodness for laptops!
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While not claiming to be able to multi-task, I definitely find flat mode superior to threaded mode. Loading messages one by one is agonising and although the initial wait may be long to download 20 in one go, it does save time in the long run. I can generally understand what follows on from what, and only try threaded mode when I get really lost (maybe once every two or three weeks).
I have tried reversing the order posts are shown, but found that the order of the all threads view is also reversed, which means I then have to hunt around to find where the most recent threads are listed rather than the earliest threads.
By the way, am I the only one who finds it confusing that the arrow marked previous thread leads to a later (or more recently posted to) thread?
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>I have tried reversing the order posts are shown, but found that the order of the all threads view is also reversed, which means I then have to hunt around to find where the most recent threads are listed rather than the earliest threads.
Yes, this is the problem. I'd like threads listed by most recent and postings with the most recent at the top.
>am I the only one who finds it confusing that the arrow marked previous thread
No, me too, I've given up on the arrows.
>While not claiming to be able to multi-task
Ah, so polite, Mr Bingley.
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Ah, so polite, Mr Bingley.
Well, I do try and live up to my namesake's example.
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Well, I have stayed out of this so far, because it was only
this weekend, after all your-all's comments, that I even found out what flat and threaded modes are.
Mine started off coming up in flat mode (I now realize),
with usually 7 or 8 posts per page, and the most recent at
the top. Not knowing for so long that there was any other
way to look at the threads, I am now so used to this that I find threaded mode not worth bothering to figure out how one thing follows another.
But--about the arrows. I've never had any problem with going to the threads I want. (Keep in mind the static state of my flat mode.) The Forward arrow always takes me
to the next thread listed on the index page for that
category--UNLESS I have made a post.
If I make a post in thread number four, that thread
immediately moves to the number one slot on the index
page. So, when I click the Forward arrow after making a post, I am sent to what is now the number TWO thread--
the one that was number one when I began that category--and if I keep clickiing the forward arrow, I am sent through all of the ones I had already seen, before coming to what
used to be my "next thread". Was that clear at all?
Jo--ability to multi-task. I can find lots of useful ways of using the few seconds that it takes to load a whole thread. Cool! I occasionally do some snail mail
(need to do a lot more--there's quite a pile!), but mostly
I play solitaire! But oh, Jo, she wailed: disorientated???
Now, bingley--you can just stop all that blushing! You are utterly wise, utterly witty, and utterly wonderful, and it is obvious that I am not the only one who thinks so!
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aren't there always 10 posts per page in flat mode, no matter how looooooong they are?
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you can set the number of posts in flat mode to any number up to 10.
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Actually, I think you can set it at any number you like. I've got it set to 20, which seemed a reasonable compromise between the number of times I have to go to a new page and the length of time I have to wait for a page to download.
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11/09/2000 10:49 AM
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Oh, WOW! THANKS, BINGLEY!!!!!
I had forgotten all about this option! Guess what?
I also changed my font to Times New Roman, and increased the size by one: now I have GREAT "read-ability"; even
the rn's are noticeably separated. (I increased the font size, because with 20 posts per page, it looked pretty darn small at the default setting.)
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OK, I've read the whole thread and being now aware that some people use threaded mode, I'm coming back to the
beginning to reply!
Most important point. You can't legislate. Mav started off suggesting we hold jokes and wordplay out of Q&A. They ended up in this thread. Personally I think that's the right way to go. If I had to sit at work all day doing the 'serious stuff' and not having a joke along the way, I'd resign or top myself. (I might anyway, but that's another issue...)
Secondly, I haven't posted in two-three weeks or whatever it is because I haven't had time. There will be times in everyone's life when they can't keep up. This happens in real life too. You're busy at work, or away on a trip and life in your group of friends goes on without you. You rejoin the group and you hope you still fit in, but you can never ever catchup on every single little thing that happened while you were out of the loop.
The trouble with the net is that all those little things are recorded, so you can catch up. Worse than that, you feel that you should! And then you end up so busy catching up that you have no time to contribute.
I've been thinking about this in the time I haven't been posting. It got to a point when I couldn't face going back on the board because I knew how much reading I'd have to do.
Now I've decided that I'll just never catch up on those weeks and it doesn't matter. I'll have to pick and choose, not read everything. Sometimes I won't understand what's going on or get a cross-reference. Guess what? That happens to me all the time in real life too!
What is the point of all this long-winded drivel?
The Board isn't perfect. Neither is real life. The difference may lie a lot in our expectations.
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Oh, Bridget - thank you so much for these words of wisdom. I was coming to that conclusion, slowly and painfully, that when I have been away from the board for four or five days - which happens more often than not - I just have to " - take the Cash and let the Credit go / Nor heed the rumble of a distant drum."
My biggest problem is remembering where I have posted, so that I can check on the responses.
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I think you can change your profile to get e-mailed all responses. Of course, that might leave you with a crowded inbox... (Which smoker said: "There's no such thing as a free lung?")
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words of wisdomBridget, your reason is impeccable, and I want to marry you. Do you know how to cook liver??  Rhub, I find the best way to check my own previous posts is via my profile - I click on FishonaBike then show all user's postsThis shows my posts in descending date order, which is spot on.
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I loathe liver, am mostly vegetarian, but should warn you I eat fish!
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Liver is a very good thing to FEED to fish, and they don't require that one cook it first.
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Liver is a very good thing to FEED to fish, and they don't require that one cook it first.Indeed, Father. But clearly I should start getting suspicious if Bridget offers me any. Especially if she's licking her lips as she does so.  Bridget, I retract my proposal - one fishweib with a fish-knife is quite enough! 
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I retract my proposal
O sole mio...
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Maybe this thread should be renamed proposals and retractions
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...for a hundred visions and revisions...
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a hundred visions and revisions...
I prefer the word fantasize--I love to fantasize and
re-fantasize...and...phantasm?
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like a phantasma, or some hideous dream... 
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...one fishweib with a fish-knife is quite enough!
feesh-knife? We don't need no steenkin' feesh-knife.
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We don't need no steenkin' feesh-knife
Right on, Sistah! A lock-back does the job nicely...
especially on recalcitrant sea-life.
Also--will you give me some lessons in shooting from the
hip, Annie-O? Muchas gracias from Sistah J!
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So what happened to the bit that said that things move more slowly here and a new person would have more chance of finding this thread ...
It looks like we've colonised another thread - steenkin' feesh-knives! - ever heard of Chaos Theory?
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We don't need no steenkin' feesh-knife<sigh> Bridget, I don't want you to think me fickle, but can I please retract my retraction? Better to be filleted with style than hacked apart by a blunt instrument. P.S. Jo - have you heard of 'Self Organisation'? An apt derivative of Chaos Theory, methinks!
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A lock-back does the job nicely
What is a lock-back?
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Bridget, I don't want you to think me fickle, but can I please retract my retraction?
Better to be filleted with style than hacked apart by a blunt instrument.
Would you rather I thought of you as fickle or filleted? Either way, you're welcome over here any time. Just bring your (getaway) bike...
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Would you rather I thought of you as fickle or filleted?I'll make no bones about it either way, m'dear.
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What a blast from the past!  I loved it! I never quite got that far back. Thank you, Roseby.
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