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rhynchos is Greek for "snout" = nose, "oxy" means pointed. So I found a site with a picture of Atlantic sturgeon, with pointed head . Atlantic sturgeon Acipenser oxyrhynchus
 
 
  
 
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a Hawaiian word: palaka                   [pah lah' kah]
                     
                                                             A checkered shirt,                                        usually blue and                                        white, of block-print                                        cloth                                                            Reminiscent of the                                                            "plantation days" work                                                            shirts; from the English                                                            "frock". Palaka is also                                                            a general term for a                                                            regular shirt with a                                                            collar and buttons, as                                                            in palaka aloha for                                                            aloha shirt.
 
  
 
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paletot           since it is a French word, I suppose final "t" would not be pronounced.  n. 5Fr < OFr palletoc < ME paltok < ?6 [Historical]  1	a man‘s overcoat  2	a loose jacket worn by women and children
 
 
  
 
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palfrey   n., pl. 3freys 5ME < OFr palefrei < ML palafredus, for LL paraveredus, extra post horse < Gr para, beside + L veredus, post horse < Gaul *voredos (akin to Welsh gorwydd, horse) < *vo3, down, away (< IE *wo3 < base *au3, *awc) + *3redos < IE base *reidh3 > RIDE6 [Archaic] a saddle horse, esp. a gentle one for a woman
 
 
  
 
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 Palouser. United States, Washington State. A strong and dangerous      katabatic wind descending into the Palouse River valley
 
 
 
  
 
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paloverde  n. 5MexSp, lit., green tree < Sp palo, a stick, log (< L palus, a stake, PALE2) + verde, green < L viridis: see VERDURE6 any of several leguminous trees or shrubs (genera Parkinsonia and Cercidium) with spiny branches, green bark, and bright-yellow flowers, found in the SW U.S. and Mexico
 
 
  
 
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paloverde   n. 5MexSp, lit., green tree < Sp palo, a stick, log (< L palus, a stake, PALE2) + verde, green < L viridis: see VERDURE6 any of several leguminous trees or shrubs (genera Parkinsonia and Cercidium) with spiny branches, green bark, and bright-yellow flowers, found in the SW U.S. and Mexico
 
 
  
 
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palpus   n., pl. pal$pi# 73pj#8 5ModL < L palpus, the soft palm of the hand, akin to palpare: see PALPABLE6  1	a jointed organ or feeler for touching or tasting, attached to one of the head appendages of insects, lobsters, etc.  2	a fleshy, sensory structure in the oral region of some polychaete worms
 
 
  
 
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Living in a swampy environment.
 
  
 
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panache     pronunced like mustache, which can be worn with panache (not by me)  5Fr < OFr pannache < OIt pennacchio < LL(Ec) pinnaculum, tuft, plume: see PINNACLE6  1	a plume of feathers, esp. on a helmet  2	dashing elegance of manner; carefree, spirited self-confidence or style; flamboyance
 
 
  
 
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panchax   n. 5ModL6 any of various brilliantly colored killifishes (genus Aplocheilus) often kept in tropical fish aquariums
 
 
  
 
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pandect   n. 5Fr pandecte < LL Pandectae, the Pandects < L, pl. of pandectes, an all-inclusive book < Gr pandektcs, lit., all-receiving < pan, all (see PAN3) + dechesthai, to contain, receive < IE *dea3: see DECENT6  1	[often pl.] a complete body of laws; legal code  2	[Now Rare] a complete or comprehensive digest 
 
 
  
 
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paneity                  n. - Theology, state of being merely bread.
  the state of the bread wafers prior to their being blessed for the Eucharist Eucharist   n. 5ME eukarist < OFr eucariste < LL(Ec) eucharistia < Gr, gratitude (in N.T., the Eucharist) < eucharistos, grateful < eu3, well (see EU3) + charizesthai, to show favor to6  1	HOLY COMMUNION  2	the consecrated bread and wine used in Holy Communion, or either of these  Eu#cha[ris4tic  adj.
                    
 
  
 
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Oxyrhynchus was the name of a place in Egypt where a collection of papyrus gnostic texts was found towards the end of the 19th century.
  It was also the name of the fish that ate the God Osiris's penis after Osiris's body was dismembered and thrown into the Nile by his brother Set. When Isis collected the pieces and resurrected Osiris, this part was missing.
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Interesting word, wwh. I guess as the 'nose' part, but couldn't guess at the 'oxy' part.
  Now I wonder how pointed does a nose or snout have to be to be classified as 'oxyrhynchus'? I've been reading about the meerkats, and they have somewhat pointed noses--and I wonder whether theirs would qualify as being 'oxyrhynchate'--if that might be the adjective form? Certainly an anteater would possess an oxyrhynchus.
 
  
 
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Paludicolous? Ridiculous! Use this word and you'll bog your audience down in confusion.
 
  
 
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In reply to:
 Oxyrhynchus was the name of a place in Egypt where a collection of papyrus gnostic texts was found towards the end of the 19th century.
  
  Oh, Bingley, I just read your post after posting my own on the word.
  Now where is the connection between what you wrote and "pointed nose"?
 
   
 
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Dear Bingley: Thanks for explaining a lot of hits that puzzled me.
 
  
 
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Oxyrynchus was the Greek/Latin name for a Nile fish with a pointed nose, a kind of pike I believe. It was one of the many Egyptian animal gods (there are advantages to eating a god's penis), and its main temple was in the town of Oxyrynchus (a loan translation from the Egyptian perhaps). It would seem the papyri found there were much more than just a collection of gnostic texts. Apparently BBC Radio did a series of programmes on the city and the archaeological discoveries there:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/oxyrhynchos.shtmlBingley 
 
  
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Dear Bingley: you have a sharp nose for interesting sites.
 
  
 
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I just googled: oxyrynchus fish temple
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or even oxyrhynchus
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or even oxyrhynchos...
  Just read your site, Bingley. Many thanks for broadening the understanding here of long noses.
  That site would be of keen interest to anyone who reads here since it's all about putting together 950 years of culture from studying these ancient writings, papyrology.
  Anyway, it was a great read--and, yes, Bingley, the fish was a pike according to the site. Thanks, again.
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> yes, Bingley, the fish was a pike
  For some reason, as soon as I read this, I thought of that great last line:
  For the snark was a Boojum, you see.
 
  
 
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Where else could you find people even remotely interested in the connection between a long-nosed fish and the birth of papyrology? We are so lucky.
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In reply to:
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  My sentiments exactly, Bingley.  
 
   
 
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Curiously enough, while I had never heard of oxyrhynchus - fish or place, I was very familiar with oncorhynchus, even though I'm no particular fan of Schubert.
 
  
 
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