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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Grail #94997 02/08/2003 11:25 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Though I learned the word "grail" from books I read when I was quite young, I never thought until just now to look it up, to learn its pedigree. I was surprised to find it derives ultimately from "krater' Grail 5ME graal < OFr < ML gradalis, flat dish, cup < ? VL *cratalis < L crater, mixing bowl: see CRATER6 Medieval Legend the cup or platter used by Jesus at the Last Supper, and by Joseph of Arimathea to collect drops of Jesus‘ blood at the Crucifixion: the quest for the Grail, which disappeared, is treated in Malory‘s Morte Darthur, Wagner‘s Parsifal, etc. Also Holy Grail Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grail #94998 02/10/2003 3:40 AM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... the quest for the Grail, which disappeared, is treated in Malory‘s Morte Darthur, Wagner‘s Parsifal, etc. One can't leave Monty Python out of this equation, can one? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grail #94999 02/10/2003 10:20 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Ni! formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grail #95000 02/11/2003 1:01 PM Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK dxb Pooh-Bah dxb Pooh-Bah Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK The grail and Morte D'Arthur made me think of The Questing Beast Glatisant, so I did some questing and offer a link for those who may be interested. http://www.employees.org/~pcorless/pendragon/glatisant.txt This was the most informative of all the links I found. I also came across references to the Lancelot-Vulgate and Post-Vulgate Quest for the Holy Grail legends - all new to me; looking in Amazon I was distressed by the prices for a translation of these works. I am amazed at not having come across them before. I have a good copy of Mallory but these predate him, seem to be better written than Geoffrey of Monmouth's even earlier work, and I lust after them! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grail #95001 02/11/2003 1:57 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 I was distressed Does that mean you were also disheveled? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grail #95002 02/11/2003 2:38 PM Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK dxb Pooh-Bah dxb Pooh-Bah Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK I was quite tidy, but I was less than stinctly gusted. Ummm, not sure that's right. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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