#93531
01/27/2003 6:58 PM
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The cold in the eastern US is uppermost in many people's minds. I hereby offer how upstate Noo Yawkers view declining temperatures:
Official Upstate New York Temperature Conversion Chart
60 above F
* New Jerseyites try to turn on the heat.Hi, Juan!
* People in Upstate New York plant gardens.
50 above
* Californians shiver uncontrollably.
* People in Upstate New York sunbathe.
40 above
* Italian and English cars won't start.
* People in Upstate New York drive with the windows down.
32 above
* Distilled water freezes.
* Sacandaga Lake's water gets thicker.
20 above
* Floridians don coats, thermal underwear, gloves and woolly hats.
*People in Upstate New York throw on a flannel shirt.
15 above
* Philadelphia landlords finally turn up the heat.
* People in Upstate New York have the last cook-out before it
gets cold.
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* People in Miami all die.
* Upstaters lick the flagpole.
20 below
* Californians fly away to Mexico.
* People in Upstate New York get out their winter coats.
40 below
* Hollywood disintegrates.
* The Girl Scouts in Upstate NY are selling cookies door to door.
60 below
* Polar bears begin to evacuate the Arctic.
* Upstate NY Boy Scouts postpone "Winter Survival" classes until it gets cold enough.
80 below
* Mt. St. Helen's freezes.
* People in Upstate NY rent some videos.
100 below
* Santa Claus abandons the North Pole.
* Upstaters get frustrated because they can't thaw the keg.
297 below
* Microbial life no longer survives on dairy products.
* Cows in Upstate NY complain about farmers with cold hands.
460 below
* ALL atomic motion stops (absolute zero on the Kelvin scale).
* People in Upstate NY start saying...."Cold 'nuff for ya?"
500 below
* Hell freezes over.
* Upstaters plan their next tailgate party.
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#93532
01/27/2003 8:49 PM
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I don't want to gloat
I don't even own a coat.
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#93533
01/27/2003 8:59 PM
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I don't want to gloat
I don't even own a coat.Thank you for that note My curmudgeonly old goat. 
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#93534
01/27/2003 9:05 PM
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Dear AS: Notice the inadequacy of the emoticon. Tongue should be in middle and vibrating
with good cheer, Bronx style.
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#93535
01/27/2003 9:20 PM
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* New Jerseyites try to turn on the heat.Hi, JuanIf you think we turn the heat on at 60° with the price of natural gas these days, guess again... And I'm a South Jerseyan, 50 miles below the Mason-Dixon line...big difference. And I prefer Jersey an to Jersey ite, thanks...you New Yorkite you. upstart upstater!  And, BTW, the Delaware Bay is frozen like an Arctic wasteland right now, though still flowing about 200 yards offshore...and the Cape May-Lewes (DE) ferry has had to curtail service for awhile, limited to one run, chugging though ice fields like an ice-cutter. But, actually, this is a *normal winter for these parts...the mild winters we've been having lately were way above-average and spoiled us, is all.
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#93536
01/28/2003 1:32 AM
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AnnaS, that was great! Thanks! I wanna move up North...
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#93537
01/28/2003 11:27 AM
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Jackie, don't tell me you are a closet Yooper?!Where's that interobang when I need it, eh?
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#93538
01/28/2003 12:19 PM
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#93539
01/28/2003 2:28 PM
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how would it be in celsius scale??
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#93540
01/28/2003 2:58 PM
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Nobody cares. Celcius is too much trouble when you've lived by fahrenheit all your life!
Last night, on our local TV last night the weatherman talked to a gal from London (UK) - living here for awhile - She said she didn't know it could get this cold. It was hovering just above zero (Fahrenheit) with a wind chil factor making it 10 below! She was well covered with hat, scarf, mittens, boots. Somebody gave her good advice.
It's too damned COLD!
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#93541
01/28/2003 3:38 PM
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Nobody cares. Celcius is too much trouble when you've lived by fahrenheit all your life!Hey! I care! Furthermore, I maintain that it's Fahrenheit that's too much trouble when you've lived your whole life in Celsius! FWIW, I've seen more or less the same joke but with, say, Winnipeggers and Torontonians (the latter not being known for their ability to resist inclement weater; the former being able to more or less function normally in cold most people would describe as bone-chilling). And of course, degrees Celsius.
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#93542
01/28/2003 3:52 PM
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Hope it didn't seem I was claiming any credit for this. It came to me unsourced in an E-mail from a native upstate New Yorker. I'm sure it's been around the block many times, with many different localities, as Bean pointed out. In any case, as a semi-tropical girl, I am in serious pout mode.  Jackie, you want to trade houses next year from say, November to March? 
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#93543
01/28/2003 4:41 PM
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#93544
01/28/2003 5:04 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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You can do it in your head quite easily:
°C x 9/5 + 32 = °F
°F - 32 x 5/9 = °C
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#93545
01/28/2003 5:09 PM
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You can do it in your head quite easily:hahahahaha! maybe you can...
formerly known as etaoin...
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#93546
01/28/2003 5:23 PM
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Well, I admit I happen to remember the conversion through using it, but that's if you want it exact which normally you don't. Key is simply that 0°C = 32°F. To do it simply, take °C, double it and add 30 and that gives you a good feel for how hot it is if you normally think in °F. Or take °F, subtract 30 and halve the result if you normally think in °C. That's good enough for normal domestic use! So 20°C, double it to 40, add 30 gives 70°F, comfortably warm. Almost exact. Easy peasy .
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#93547
01/28/2003 5:25 PM
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#93548
01/28/2003 5:29 PM
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#93549
01/28/2003 5:35 PM
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maybe you can...that's what i wanted to say
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#93550
01/28/2003 5:57 PM
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...Tongue should be in middle and vibrating
with good cheer, Bronx style.
Ah, the old "razzberries".
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#93551
01/29/2003 11:04 AM
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I'm with you, Annastrophic. I want palm trees..........Waaaaaah! It's just a cruel trick of fate that I was born and raised not to mention that I left and came back in Michigan. I, too, am in serious pout mode and it doesn't help that I have a friend who is going to Costa Rica on vacation soon. He just has to rub it in 
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#93552
01/29/2003 11:07 AM
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I don't know what y'all are going on about. We're on the rim of the best month of all, February.
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#93553
01/29/2003 12:43 PM
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ARGH--we're due to be clear up in the 40's for the rest of the week! WAAHHHHHH! This is supposed to be winter!
I want my cold weather back!!
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#93554
01/30/2003 2:32 PM
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You can do it in your head quite easily:
°C x 9/5 + 32 = °F
°F - 32 x 5/9 = °Cor you could just go here; http://www.crh.noaa.gov/pub/metcon.shtml
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#93555
01/30/2003 2:58 PM
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Most of the thermometers I have ever owned had both F and C markings. Very handy.
Nade me lazy about conversion.
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#93556
01/30/2003 3:38 PM
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I think I've posted this before, but a neat way to get ballpark figures is to remember that at two points they are mirror images:
28 C = 82 F
16 C = 61 F
I find it easy to remember because you only need to remember two points for ballpark estimates. Both are also good reference points when you try to "imagine" what they're like - 16C/61F is a bit below comfortable room temperature, and 28C/82F is a pretty warm summer's day where I live.
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#93557
01/30/2003 4:12 PM
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#93558
01/30/2003 4:37 PM
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I'm missing a link
Yes, dear, we know, bless your heart.
They're mirror images only at those two points. They're the same at -40°. At oven temperatures °F is approximately 2X°C. Close enough for baking and roasting. These are just rules of thumb. If you want to be exact at all temperatures use one of the formulas mentioned above.
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#93559
01/30/2003 4:47 PM
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Take your one degree C, double it and add 30 gives 32 degrees F. Not quite spot on, but close. I dunno, you try to help...
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#93560
01/30/2003 4:52 PM
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Take your one degree C, double it and add 30 gives 32 degrees F
I've always used this, in both directions. Keep trying in your noble effort, d, and maybe you'll end up converting someone someday.[empathetic nod]
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#93561
01/30/2003 4:59 PM
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Just to clarify, Faldage is right, it's only at those two points where they are mirror images but as I said, I find them in particular easy to remember. My Mom taught me those which she used during (and I guess after) the Metrification of Canada.
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#93562
01/30/2003 5:00 PM
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Yeah, its snowing a blizzard outside, temperature about at freezing, and I've got an hour and a half drive home in the dark.. Commuting is great.[looking pathetic-e]
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#93563
01/30/2003 5:01 PM
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You have blizzards in London? (Did you know, FWIW, that the word blizzard was coined by a USn? Just keep that in mind as you drive home - you'd have had no word for it if they hadn't had so many of them on this continent!)
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#93564
01/30/2003 5:11 PM
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I think generally blizzards in London and your blizzards are two different animals. Like a Siamese and a panther. We'll see what its like when I get out into the sticks. Trouble is in the south-east we get it so seldom, maybe once or twice a year, and the snow usually only comes down for a few days, so its not worth investing in stuff to cope with it. Consequently the train service folds up, the roads seize up and the pipes freeze up. The tabloids make a big issue of how we're never prepared, but barring a real change in the climate (heaven forbid) we never will be prepared. It ain't worth the dough.
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#93565
01/30/2003 7:14 PM
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#93566
01/31/2003 12:33 PM
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Just to emphasise what I said about lack of preparation for a little snow and ice, it seems that to the east of London car commuters yesterday evening took up to 12 hours to complete what would normally have been a one hour drive. Allowing for journalistic licence I daresay only one of them actually took *that long. Also, once out of urban London, the Underground system is mostly above ground and many of those stretches were out of action trapping trains and causing hours of delay.
It was minus 3 degree C when I left home at 06.15 today with wind chill taking it down to about minus six apparently. Not too bad, but cold for this country. London is about the same latitude as Newfoundland if I remember (must check again!) people forget that. The only thing that saves us is the Gulf Stream. Oh well, it should thaw out today. The sun is out shining on the snow – it all looks very pretty.
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#93567
01/31/2003 1:03 PM
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My commiserations, dxb. Seriously.
Meanwhile, what do we call you for short? "One more David" is kinda long....
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#93568
02/01/2003 12:04 AM
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from the 2003 Farmer's Almanac:
>Yeah, But Can A CRICKET Convert to Celsius?
You've probably heard this one, but it's worth repeating: How can you determine the local air temperature listening to a cricket? Count the number of cricket chirps in 14 seconds and then add 40. The number will give you the air temperature in degrees Fahrenheit. On the other hand, we know that at 60 degrees Fahrenheit, a cricket will chirp 72 times per minute. So, for every four chirps less than 72, subtract a degree from 60°F, and for every four additional chirps, add a degree to 60°F. Got it?
--from The Handy Weather Answer Book, by Walter A. Lyons, PH.D.<
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#93569
02/06/2003 1:12 PM
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Meanwhile, what do we call you for short? "One more David" is kinda long....
My Grandfather used to say "I don't mind what you call me so long as you don't call me early".
I bounce up, panting happily, in response to either Dave or David...so if Dave suits, that's fine with me! Just don't put an 'I' in it - no diphthongs, a pure vowel sound please!
I just got back from a few days in Spalding in Lincolnshire. There's nothing to break the east wind between you and the Urals up there...very bracing.
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#93570
02/06/2003 1:51 PM
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David! I had always thought of you as a gentleman, and here you go talking about breaking wind!>evil grin<
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