#91156
01/08/2003 2:51 PM
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There are many stupid anachronisms. At the top of my list is the necktie. There was a time
when houses had no central heating, when men wore hats in the house and needed something
to fill in area uncovered by suit coat. Look at the old pictures with throat coverings the size
of a table napkin. First they were functional, then they were given color and lace. It has been
many years since they served any useful purpose except to advertise what prestigious
university you attended, and maybe even graduated from. Now they are just a damned
shibboleth, absence of which can bar you from stylish restaurant. I despise the notion that
clothes make the man. Stuffed shirts only benefit from them. (Let the battle rage!)
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#91158
01/08/2003 3:13 PM
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Don't get me started on a rant about allegely male couturieres
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#91159
01/08/2003 3:52 PM
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Men wear neckties as their handicap as women wear high heeled shoes as theirs. The necktie cuts off blood supply to the brain, thus compensating for the males' greater intelligence as the women's high heeled shoes compensate for their greater physical abilities.
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#91160
01/08/2003 4:22 PM
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#91161
01/08/2003 9:48 PM
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>Quilts today are a stupid anachronism.
Well then, I hope that AWADtalk's "stupidly anachronistic" member doesn't take offence at your harsh words and abandon work on the quilt she's making for my wife. From an email received recently, it sounds as if she will be spending even more time and effort on this stupid anachronism. You had better show her the error of her ways, Dr. Bill.
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#91162
01/08/2003 11:18 PM
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Dear sjm: you may rely on it that I never said that when my wife was spending many dollars
and many,many hours sewing tiny pieces into squares, and going to dozens of meetings to
show her work and see that of her firiends. many of thhe ones she never finished, and quite
a few of those she did finish went into a Dumpster. Sad.
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#91163
01/09/2003 12:00 AM
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sjm, I wonder if it's the same AWAD member who so kindly and generously, in the midst of great upheaval in her life, sent us a table-runner quilt she made with us in mind, mind you, as a wedding present? 
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#91164
01/09/2003 1:28 AM
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If we're talking of one who's been busy heeding the injunction, "Go West, young lass!" then, yup, that's her. Junior Wheatgerm, that is
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#91165
01/09/2003 1:45 AM
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neckties
I was wondering the other day about the longevity of this current style of men's neckwear. It seems the necktie as we know it has survived in its current fashion for over a hundred years now. But if you look at historical pictures prior to the late 1800s, you'll see the rapidity in the change in fashion of men's neckwear, somtimes every decade, and at least from generation to generation. So why did the necktie fasten itself like a cloth iron around our necks?
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#91166
01/09/2003 8:55 AM
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#91167
01/09/2003 10:49 AM
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to misquote Faldage
And do me ten times better in the process. LLOL, Dub' (Well I would have LLedOL, but the lovely ASp still has five minutes of down time).
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#91168
01/09/2003 11:20 PM
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AnnaS - thanx for the link re Anna Nicole Smith. I think the bestower of "Worst Dressed" awards and the journo have it all wrong. One look at the lady tells you that being dressed is not what she's all about. Oh, and BTW, I was intrigued to note your nick could be a derivation of her name. (Well, at least the name she is known by these days; no longer is she Vickie Lynn Hogan). Do the similarities end there? Send pics if no - you have my email address. 
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#91169
01/09/2003 11:24 PM
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neckties
Do you USns always call them "neckties"??
We call em "ties" - always.
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#91170
01/09/2003 11:48 PM
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1. You look cute in 'em (to some of us, that is) Ohh, yeah. 2. The necktie offers an infinite form of variety: patterns, colors, scenes, fabrics (finite set, I suppose), logos, art-on-a-strip-of-cloth Glad you didn't restrict that to "pretty". 3. It's phallic ? Hrm... 4. Some people are impressed that you can tie 'em at all It does take a bit of know-how. I actually learned to tie a necktie from fastening a saddle girth. 5. Life is a series of knots to be tied and untied Woo, profound! 6. It's a giant arrowhead Ohmigawd--pointing to what, dare I ask??  7. It's a bow on a package of male I LOVE it! 8. You can honestly say when wearin' 'em and want to get out of something, "I'm all tied up now" Ha! 9. It's a rocket Er-- ? 10. And (to misquote Faldage): It cuts off the supply of blood to your brains thereby leveling the mental playing field ...and sending it to... No, I won't say it! ========================================================= stales, here in the south, we often do say necktie. We may be somewhat behind other folks, in still saying that. If I say just 'tie', I want to be sure my hearer understands from my context that I'm not talking about, say, a garbage tie. If my husband were to say, "Bring me a tie", I'd need to know whether he was getting ready to go to work, or to take out the garbage. Though the Christmas necktie his brother fobbed off on him would be put to better use tying up the trash, I think...
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#91171
01/10/2003 12:43 AM
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>we call 'em ""ties" - always Yep, on this side of the Tasman too, "necktie" would be thought odd or old-fashioned at best, stupidly pretentious at worst. BTW, stales, congrats on Aussie's result against Sri Lanka last night.
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#91172
01/10/2003 2:34 AM
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Do you USns always call them "neckties"??Interesting query, stales...actually, both. I'd always say "a shirt and tie" or, as a compliment, "I like your tie," or "hand me a tie". But, it seems to me now, at a distance, I'm more apt to say "necktie"..."should I wear a necktie?", "I hate wearing a necktie," "I don't own many neckties." Of course, in some quarters, "shirt and tie" or "shirt and tie affair" means the more formal tuxedo and black tie...sometimes more specifically referred to as a "black tie affair". Which leads us to a question for all the bowtie wearers out there...do you ususally say bow with your tie? And will the gentlemen of the board be willing to share their tie preference? Necktie here. And, gee, thanks for clearing up my question for me, Dub-Dub!
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#91173
01/10/2003 2:37 AM
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I was looking for a picture to illustrate a conuncrum: When is a tie not a tie? When its a Texas shoestring just threaded though a metal ornament. I couldn't find a picture, but I did find an essay that I thought mildly amusing. http://home.attbi.com/~practical/devniad/devniads/d59.pdf
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#91174
01/10/2003 11:27 AM
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When its a Texas shoestring just threaded though a metal ornament.It's called a bolo tie and the slide is often highly ornamental in a southwest jewelry design style. http://www.srvfanclub.com/images/art/bolo.htm
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#91175
01/10/2003 1:58 PM
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It's called a bolo tie and the slide is often highly ornamental in a southwest jewelry design style.
....as worn by every male lapidary club member of post retirement age throughout the known universe.
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#91176
01/10/2003 3:03 PM
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I remember in the silent movies the cowboys used to have a bandanna tied around their necks,
to cover the throat, and be pulled up over the nose and mouth when the cattle stirred up dust,
and a filter was needed to breathe without choking on dust. Also worn as mask by bad guys
duing robberies. That's functional, and made sense. But absurd now.
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