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01/04/2003 5:25 PM
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I'm collecting a list of paradoxical words, that is, words that in some sense contain their own contradiction. The word "exoteric" (AWAD 10/22) is a good example: It is essentially an antonym of "esoteric" and means "not limited to an inner circle of select people, suitable for the general public." However, I suspect that only a small inner circle of select people ( i.e., AWAD enthusiasts and similar word lovers) know what exoteric means. The word "exoteric" is therefore esoteric.
Please post any other words of this type that you may know, including a brief explanation of why they are paradoxical. I will post the complete list of submitted words to the AWAD forum.
If you know of a list of paradoxical terms in English that someone else already has compiled, please let me know where to find it.
Thanks!
David
David Schwartz
Department of Neurobiology
Duke University Medical Center
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Duke University Medical Center
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01/04/2003 6:37 PM
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01/04/2003 6:40 PM
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Dear dschwartz65: An interesting question. In searching for something that might fit, a found a site about oxymorons you might enjoy browsing. Some of them are debatable, but that could be the interesting part. http://www.wordexplorations.com/oxymora-a-f.html
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01/04/2003 7:43 PM
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01/04/2003 8:24 PM
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if I apprehend (yet another!) David's question correctly, he seeks not words that can be defined in two nearly opposite senses (self-contradicting, enantiodromic)*, but rather words such as those in column one of the "cabbage puzzle"--non-selfdescriptive (heterological) words; e.g., monosyllabic, adjective. one of my favorite words which exhibits this quality is orthoepy, which has the meaning "the customary pronunciation of words"; orthoepy has two accepted pronunciations. *self-contradicting words have been discussed in these pages to some degree in the past. (for that matter, heterological words have come up in a couple of threads, notably this one: http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=6120)
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01/05/2003 2:54 AM
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http:// wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=6120) Isn't this another incarnation ofwhat is officially called Russell's Paradox? There are classes which include themselves, and classes which don't include themselves - to which one does the class-of-things-that-do-not-include-themselves belong? (Substitute "catalog" for "class" if it makes it more concrete.)
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01/05/2003 1:21 PM
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to which one does the class-of-things-that-do-not-include themselves belong?
It belongs to the Gödelian Just-cause-we-wrap-our-tongues-around-some-sounds-doesn't-mean-we-know-what-we're-talking-about class.
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01/05/2003 9:24 PM
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Right! Go to the head of the class!
But it really is Russell's Paradox
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01/06/2003 1:50 AM
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Many thanks to all who have posted ideas so far. Deliberately self-contradictory terms (e.g., sophmore), and logical conundrums (e.g. Russel's paradox) are great fun, but i think I have something different in mind, namely, instances where the paradox is not built into the word or phrase but arises from a particular social context. In other words, while "sophmore" will always be an oxymoron, "exoteric" will be paradoxical only as long as its use remains limited to a small circle of people. If, for example, William Safire were to write a column about "exoteric" being a paradoxical word, the word would no longer be paradoxical, or less so anyway.
There may not actually be very many such words. I hadn't given the matter much thought until I came across 'exoteric' the October AWAD posting.
David Schwartz
Department of Neurobiology
Duke University Medical Center
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Duke University Medical Center
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01/06/2003 2:50 AM
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Neato construction, Mr. Dschwartz, but I fear that lingual constructions that you feel exist will be found to be as rare as ticks on a turtle. Think a minute. What grouping of thought concepts could be arranged so as to have an inadvertant conceptual gravitation towards paradox. You'll agree not many. But think about it, your question ... While "sophmore" will always be an oxymoron, "exoteric" will be paradoxical only as long as its use remains limited to a small circle of people
is in itself paradoxical. In the absolute, David, that is true. But do you have time to find another? 
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01/06/2003 4:25 AM
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unless I'm yet missing the point, I'd say orthoepy still qualifies--should "they" settle on a single pronunciation it will become self-descriptive; until then it falls into the category of heterological.
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01/12/2003 2:25 AM
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instances where the paradox is not built into the word or phrase but arises from a particular social context. Um--I don't think this is quite what you're meaning, Mr. S., but I'll ask, just to be sure: words like "bad", which used to mean only bad but in recent years can also mean good? We have had many discussions on words that have changed meanings. Welcome aBoard, by the way!
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