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#88726
12/05/2002 1:56 PM
  
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We live in interesting times. We still have a few Good Samaritans, but have to have a law to protect them from the Legal Predators. § 210 ILCS 50/3.150. Immunity from civil liability
                              Sec. 3.150. Immunity from civil liability. (a) Any person, agency or                             governmental body certified, licensed or authorized pursuant to this Act or rules                             thereunder, who in good faith provides emergency or non-emergency medical                             services during a Department approved training course, in the normal course of                             conducting their duties, or in an emergency, shall not be civilly liable as a result                             of their acts or omissions in providing such services unless such acts or                             missions, including the bypassing of nearby hospitals or medical facilities in                             accordance with the protocols developed pursuant to this Act, constitute and                             wanton misconduct.
 
  
 
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#88727
12/06/2002 4:50 PM
  
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 We were told by our CPR / First Aid instructor that once you started rendering aid, you were not allowed to stop.  To do so makes you liable.  We were told that if you started CPR, the only reason you could stop was if 1) you passed out or 2) someone came to replace you.
  I think our laws have a lot to do with the fact that people aren't decent to each other any more.
  I was listening to some program on the radio once about evictions and the speaker mentioned the startling fact that once a person sleeps two nights in a place (in the speaker's area), that the place they sleep is considered their "home" and that the home-owner can't kick them out.  I can easily imagine putting up a homeless person for a couple days and then finding that I can't get rid of him.  Never bothered to verify this, or see where it might be applicable.
  Whenever I see a homeless person, I invariably wonder how much they can thank the legal profession for the severity of their position.
 
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#88728
12/06/2002 5:03 PM
  
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Dear FF: we all make jokes about lawyers. But only greedy people start legal problems. If there were not so many greedy people, there would be few lawyers.
 
  
 
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#88729
12/06/2002 5:12 PM
  
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I think our laws have a lot to do with the fact that people aren't decent to each other any more.
  Absolutely.  The various child protection acts that have appeared over the last few years, although well meant, have also had the effect of over-sensitising us.  Visiting a childrens' farm with my grandson the other week, a small girl ran past, fell badly, started howling.  My instinctive reaction was to reach down and help her up.  But I felt concerned in case my action should be misunderstood.  What a sad world.
 
  
 
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#88730
12/07/2002 11:49 PM
  
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Dearest dxb, what is a child farm and why would one visit? The vision I have in my head is of children sprouting out of the ground in neat little rows and admission being charged to view them. I suspect it is an orphanage but am curious as to what prompted the visit. Edit Someone suggested to me that it might be what USns call a petting zoo. That would explain a lot.   
 
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#88731
12/09/2002 10:26 AM
  
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Dear Consuelo,  
  No, no, I did call it a "childrens' farm", not a child farm.  Intrigueing concept that would be - like something out of Brave New World!  It is like, but more than, a petting zoo as it includes other agriculture related interests and areas devoted to various open air activities.  They became popular as it became more difficult for small farms to make money and the UK government brought in a policy called 'set aside' that meant that farmers received money for non-producing land, ie: land that was set aside, provided it was open to the public to use for recreational purposes.  I am not knowledgeable about this despite living in a rural area, one only has time to get into so much, but I believe the background includes the various problems brought about by the EC's Common Agricultural Policy.  I am sure there are other Brits here who know more - where is Shona when you need him?  (Seriously, I know he is busy, not taking a Sabbatical).  Me, I just go the agricultural shows and enjoy the benefits of not living in The Smoke even though I work there!  Not that its smoky anymore - beautiful blue sky out there at the moment, but frosty this morning at 6.00am.
 
  
 
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