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One of the spellingbee words. Patients in OPD amused us by saying "yellow jaundice". Actually there can be bile retention with bluish tint. I saw a dany case in a Chinese restaurant in 1947. He had "doigts en baguettes de tambour", and was bluish green, not yellow. I think it was a combination of jaundice and methemoglobinemia. Incidentally, the restaurant across the street was named Hung Far Low. Honest. But what puzzles me is I can't see any association of "icteric" with the color yellow. Jaundice is easy, French "jaune" is yellow. But what color clue resides in "icteric"
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The only thing I could find on Onelook was that "icteric" came from the Greek "ikteros" meaning simply "jaundice." I googled "ikteros" and read a few hits, but, again, only read that "ikteros" was Greek for "jaundice." Apparently it's used to mean "yellow" in some avian species.
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Per my Greek dictionary, ikteros is the name of a bird of a yellowish green colour by looking at which a jaundiced person was cured; the bird died! Related words (ikteriau, ikterikos) have meanings related to jaundice but ikterias means a yellowish kind of stone.
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Any connection between the "ic" in "icteric" and the "ic" in "rictus"? Probably not, but thought I'd ask.
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whoops doubled up, sorry Bingley
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According to the Liddle and Scott entry on ikteros ( http:// makeashorterlink.com/?A25E217A2) Pliny the Elder identifies the ikteros with the bird we now as the golden oriole. Bingley
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Even closer might be the word for seizure, which is "ictus". Any connection found?
And exploiting my famous looseness of association: icterus ==> ictus ==> seizure ==> seize the moment ==> carpe diem ("Seize the day!") ==> carpals are wristbones ==> ==> is that because we use the wrist to seize objects with? (well, sort of, by exension, almost, maybe)
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use the wrist to seize objects with?
You use your wrists? You might find that fingers work a little better.
Carpal traces back through Greek karpos, wrist, to IE kwerp-. No mention of carpere.
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Bingley,
I couldn't get your link to come up.
I got the impression from reading about ikteros on Google that ikteros = jaundice, not that ikteros = yellow.
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ikteros = jaundice, not that ikteros = yellow
Hey! Jaundice = yellow
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But does jaundice = yellow, purely and wholly, or does jaundice = yellow from sickness?
In other words, would we be correct in using jaundice strictly as a color?
New Spring Line from Channel: That Little Jaundice Dress
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Per AHD:
Middle English jaundis, jaunis, from Old French jaunice, yellowness, jaundice, from jaune, jalne, yellow, from Latin galbinus, yellowish.
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Thank you, Faldage. Jaundiced journalism has a striking ring to it, doesn't it?
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isn't it a bit more chartreuse?
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a bit more chartreuse?
Depends. Yellow chartreuse or green chartreuse?
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You can get yellow jaundice from drinking too much Chartreuse. Cheaper to go Gallo.
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Y'all're a hoot. And WW, is that Channel or Chanel?
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And WW, is that Channel or Chanel?
You're not an editor for nuthin'!
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a long-dead relative once sent me the wrong music as a gag...
yep, I was channeled a chart ruse...
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I got the impression from reading about ikteros on Google that ikteros = jaundice, not that ikteros = yellow.
Yes, it does mean jaundice. As Faldage said, it is also the name of a bird, the sight of which was supposed to cure jaundice. I was adding for the benefit of the ornithologically curious that the bird in question is the golden oriole.
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So if you complained to a iatros about ikteros, he gave you the bird.And a "golden oriole" is "golden gold" oriole - 1776, from Fr. oriol, from L. aureolus "golden," from I.E. *aus- "gold."
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